maybe a dumb idea, but.....

[weedkilz]

maybe a dumb idea, but.....

I know mosers shield has a high block as does whitsans. If I took mosers and put in 2 elds in it, to add 14% higher chance to block, would that lower the dex that would be needed to get max block? Say I had enough resists with other gear to go without the standard diamond in the shield. If tihs made it so a sorc for example could get away with 100 dex to get max block, that would be even less points into dex that could go into vitality. Can someone let me know if this would work or not, thanks

 

[SCaVeNGeR]

Hi,

The 2 Eld's in the shield would help your block, so you would need less points in dex for max block. Dunno how much dex it saves exactly, cuz i don't have blocking formula (someone else ?). IIRC 2 Eld Mosers would still have less block than whitans, so for block whitans would still be a better shield.

SCaVeNGeR

 

[weedkilz]

ok, if 2 eld mosers is less than whitsans what about whitsans with an eld in it? I dont have the blocking calc either or know what the block of it is. I was just hoping i was making some sense at all with my question, cause my head is a little messed up today.

 

[MoUsE_WiZ]

An upgraded 2 eld mosers would have 86% block on a sorc, and IIRC mosers only has 80%. But you have to upgrade the mosers.

 

[rachil0]

Mosers doesn't have as much chance to block as whitstans, even with 2 elds. If you want low dex block, whitstans is the way to go. Eld it or p-diamond it.

P-Diamond whitstans, IMO, owns elded mosers:
eld-eld mosers: 57+14=71% block, 30% FBR, 25 resist all.
pd-whitstans: 87% block, 40% FBR, 19 resist all

16% block is a big difference in dexterity, i'd wager about 50 or so less at level 85ish. The 6% res all you can pick up in charms or other gear.

I am searching for sorc FBR, not sure if the extra 10% gets another frame. If someone could find it i'd love a link ... I could not find.

EDIT: didn't consider upgrade... that bumps from 50 str to 100 str.
IMO if you're at 100 str, bump to 126 and wear SS. I like whitstans and mosers (and rhymes) for low strength ... upgrading a shield so that it requires 20-25 less dex to block, and then needing 50 more strength doesn't make as much sense unless you get more killer mods (like SS PDR).

 

[weedkilz]

what id I socketed the whitsons with an eld? I have recently seen a table that had block for shields but how much dex would a sorc at lvl say, 85 need to get max block with whitsans with an eld? Whit is 87% block? so with eld it would be 94% I need to try to find that calculator

 

[HCTwinJava]

here is the formula that any block calc must be based on:


Your char's actual in-game blocking = (blocking from all sources * (your char's dexterity from all sources - 15)) / (your character level * 2)


in short:

final block = all listed blocking * (dex -15) / (clvl *2)


moses is used mainly for resist.
whistan's is used mainly for blocking, and most ppl would pdiamond it.

 

[STINGER]

Wizzy/Good Viper/PD Whitstans give you the chance to have 1 nice priz item like a 19ish ammy wiht other good mods and get your rez then this leaves the rest of your gear free for the choosing. The Wizzy/Viper covers FCR, so this allows the use of a Raven for Dex and Mana, or a mana/dex ring, you can use Waterwalks for its dex, and you can go Tals belt or other belt with dex and really lower the dex actually needed to invest.

If you can get max dex on a raven or dex ring
Walks
Tals
I beleive this to be around 25/20/15 Raven/tals/walks, walks also supplies life. The diamonds Whitstans can also allow you to wear a Whisp, Natures, or Soj, and leaves helm open for Pcrown and Shako that have no rez.

Now if you ELD the Whitstans then now you need to make up for 19 more priz which will greatly reduce your chance as using the above items at the same time


A Um in Helm or Armor could make that up also.

Walks are a big hitter for a sorc, possible 60 life or 30 stats there and 15 dex for 45 stats, kind of makes that extra dex you are trying to save with the ELD look like nothing if you cant wear Walks due to resisits.

Rez Jewel in Wizzy can helps also

Last season my 89 sorc had 156 Dex at the end

Walks, tals belt used

Wizzy/Whitstans Pdiamond

Tals Armor at the end but Viper most the way and really my life stat didnt improve much wiht Tals as I went Ruby in Viper.

She had 1200+ life 1100 mana

They key to a sorc IMO is her charms. each 20 lifer is 10 stats and those are big savers when you invest in your dex.


I guess what I am trying to point out here is ELD in Whitstans changes your ability to use other items that can give you better results and forces you to find 19 more Priz somewhere else. Sure you can do this with Charms, but boy I would much rather have life charms than rez charms.


My Current sorc, who has had some pretty fotunate drops is sitting like this approx.

Naj Armor 25 Priz
Wizzy
Whitstans Pdiamond
25 priz 100 life ammy
(2) FCR Rings with mana and more, nothing awesome jsut good usables
Nightsmoke
Walks
Pcrown

She is base Energy, and has 65% Block.....I am trying to hold out for Tals Belt, and i truely sort of want a good Viper instead of Naj as that eliminates the need for FCR on rings and will allow me to use my Natures and i also have a 20+ dex ring wiht mana.

1k life 800 mana and her charms are ok, I have one 30 life 40mana Grand, like (4) 19-20 smalls life and a couple 30ish larges rest are not very good. In time I will craft/find the rest of the charms I need to hit tht 1200 life again and she will have that 156ish Dex for Max block.


Skip the ELD and use the Diamond......it cheapins the items you need and opens up more opprotunities for things IMO.

 

[kurg]

A shaeled whitstans can be impressive for speed of blocking. This of course would mean you'd expect to be in situations where you'll be getting hit quickly in succession so fastest block would be of importance and not so much resists (i.e. like in cows).