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Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

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  1. scwizard

    scwizard IncGamers Member

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    Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    I was wondering how much damage a Bowzon with "perfect" gear could do, so I did some calculations. Here are the calculations and at the bottom the results. My first priority was to hit the 7 frame IAS breakpoint, my second priority was damage. The formula is from The Arreat Summit: http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/characters.shtml

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatsBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatsBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100) * Modifier

    Weapon: Archer Matriarchal Bow [Faith]
    Amulet: Cat's Eye
    Left Ring: Ring of Maiming Performance Perfection
    Right Ring: Ring of Maiming Performance Perfection
    Belt: Razortail
    Gloves: Bowyer Vampirebone Gloves of Giant Alacrity Nirvana
    Boots: War Traveler
    Helm: Valkyrie Artisan's Deadly Diadem of Maiming Performance Perfection (wut)
    First socket: Realgar Carmine Jewel of Daring Virility Bliss
    Second socket: Realgar Carmine Jewel of Daring Virility Bliss
    Body armor: Scarab Husk [Fortitude]
    Charms: Fletcher's Grand Charm of Maiming * 10, Annihilus, Hellfire Torch, Red Small Charm of Craftsmanship * 8

    IAS: breakpoint is 147
    Bow: 110 (Fanaticism Aura)
    Amulet: 20 (Cat's Eye)
    Gloves: 20 (rare)

    Minimum Damage: 20 * 3.3 (Faith) + 8 (Rings) + 12 (Helm) + 25 (Boots) + 20 (Jewels) + 8 (Charms) = 139
    Maximum damage: 47 * 3.3 (Faith) + 10 (Razortail Belt) + 26 (rings) + 13 (Helm) + 25 (Boots) + 18 (Jewels) + 48 (Charms) = 295.1

    52 Base Strength + 10 (Boots) + 15 (Gloves) + 18 (Jewels) = 95
    498 Base Dexterity + 25 (Amulet) + 40 (Rings) + 30 (Gloves) + 15 (Belt) + 20 (Helm) + 18 (Jewels) = 646
    20 Base Vitality
    15 Base Energy

    Guided arrow: 20 (Base) + 5 (Bow) + 2 (Gloves) + 2 (Helm) + 14 (Charms) = 43

    6.46 (Dexterity) + 2.** (Fanaticism Aura) + .60 (Jewels) + .30 (Helm) + 3.00 (Body Armor) + 2.15 (Guided Arrow) = 15.39

    139*15.39 = 2139 minimum damage
    295.1*15.39 = 4541 maximum damage

    Now obviously this isn't practically possible, but I'm wondering if it's theoretically possible or if I made some sort of error. I'm also wondering if higher average guided arrow damage is possible.

    Is this enough physical damage to OHKO in PvP?

    EDIT: The wiki is vague on whether cruel can spawn on rares or not. If they can this damage could probably be trumped.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    I don't know exactly where the error is, but it's too low.

    I think it's in the charms. GCs and SCs have way too little damage. Fine SC (+3 max) do you better.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    I think Grand Matron Bow would be a better choice for a glass cannon build
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    Fine SC of Craftsmanship gives you +4 max. Also you might get more benefit from a 14 Max GC than from a Bow Skills GC.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    Good oversights droid. Shows what I know about charms.

    Sass: With the charm changes droid mentioned, that screenshot should be exceeded. It already beats its min damage.

    EDIT: After changing up the charms...

    2248-7059 damage
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    Apparently cruel rare bows can spawn: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot013.jpg

    I'll have to revise things based on this tomorrow.

    EDIT:
    Weapon: Cruel Jeweler Grandmaster's Matriarchal Bow of Quickness Evisceration Transcendence
    Sockets: Ruby Jewel of Fervor * 4
    Amulet: Cat's Eye
    Left Ring: Ring of Maiming Performance Perfection
    Right Ring: Ring of Maiming Performance Perfection
    Belt: Nosferatu's Coil
    Gloves: Bowyer Vampirebone Gloves of Giant Alacrity Nirvana
    Boots: War Traveler
    Helm: Valkyrie Artisan's Deadly Diadem of Maiming Performance Perfection (wut)
    Sockets: Realgar Carmine Jewel of Daring Virility Bliss * 2
    Body armor: Scarab Husk [Fortitude]
    Charms: Sharp Grand Charm of Maiming * 10, Annihilus, Hellfire Torch, Fine Small Charm of Craftsmanship * 8

    IAS: breakpoint is 147
    Bow: 110 (Fanaticism Aura)
    Amulet: 20 (Cat's Eye)
    Gloves: 20 (rare)

    Base minimum: 20 * (1 [Base] + 3 [Cruel] + 2 [Grandmaster's] + 1.6 [Jewels]) = 152
    Base maximum: 47 * (1 [Base] + 3 [Cruel] + 2 [Grandmaster's] + 1.6 [Jewels]) = 357.2
    Minimum Damage: 152 [Base] + 20 [Bow] + 8 [Rings] + 12 [Helm] + 25 [Boots] + 20 [Jewels] = 237
    Maximum damage: 357.2 [Base] + 63 [Bow] + 26 [Rings] + 13 [Helm] + 25 [Boots] + 18 [Jewels] + 180 [Charms] = 682.2

    52 Base Strength + 10 [Boots] + 15 [Gloves] + 18 [Jewels] = 95
    498 Base Dexterity + 25 [Amulet] + 40 [Rings] + 30 [Gloves] + 15 [Belt] + 20 [Helm] + 18 [Jewels] = 646
    20 Base Vitality
    15 Base Energy

    Guided arrow: 20 [Base] + 2 [Gloves] + 2 [Helm] = 24

    6.46 [Dexterity] + .60 [Jewels] + .30 [Helm] + 3.00 [Body Armor] + 1.20 [Guided Arrow] = 11.56

    237*11.56 = 2739 minimum damage
    682.2*11.56 = 7886 maximum damage
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    Re: Weapon.

    Your suggested weapon cannot exist legitly. Your weapon seems to be a rare quality item. The Grandmaster's prefix cannot spawn on rare items, only magic. The best you can do is Master's (150% ED, 250 AR). This goes for Jeweler's as well, which is only found on magic items. The best you can do is Mechanic's (2 open sockets). This is also true for Quickness (not even possible on magic bows) and Evisceration. The best you can do is Alcarity (20 IAS) and Slaughter (20 Max).

    Re: Rings.

    These cannot exist legitly. Performance and Perfection are found on magic items only.

    Re: Circlet.

    This item cannot exist legitly. Maiming and Perfection are limited to magic items only. Your rare jewels are also not possible. They have 5 affixes, when rare jewels are capped at 4. Also, there is a %ED/Max/Min bug. All the %ED on this proposed circlet will be bugged and not do anything.

    Re: Charms.

    I'm not sure how you plan on putting 10 Grand Charms and Hellfire Torch into a single inventory. :p

    Re: Getting OHKOs.

    Don't forget double damage and the PvP penalty of 1/6. You will be able to get OHKOs with an extreme emphasis on damage, but chances are, you'll be OHKOing the poorer side of duelers. Those that have better motility than you (which be will a lot of them, especially when your 'Zon barely has 50 FRW) and have some source of block will easily get close to you and OHKO your 'Zon first.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    I can't tell what's magic only and what's not. The wiki is in total shambles about it.

    For instance the wiki says nothing about perfection not spawning on rare circlets.

    Could you link me to where you're getting your info from?

    EDIT: Man charms >_>
    Also Jewels will be fixed, but first I want to figure out a way to know for sure what's magic only and what's not.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    arreat summit's always the first place to look for info like this
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    This is also a very good site.
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    Weapon: Matriarchal Bow {Faith}
    Armor: Scarab Husk {Fortitude}
    Helm: Artisan's Diadem of Performance
    Sockets: Crimson Carmine Jewel of Wrath Bliss
    Belt: Razortail
    Gloves: Bowyer Vampirebone Gloves of Giant Precision Alacrity
    Boots: War Travelers
    Amulet: Cat's Eye
    Left Ring: Ring of Performance
    Right Ring: Ring of Performance
    Charms: Sharp Grand Charm of Maiming * 9, Fine Small Charm of Craftsmanship * 8, Sharp Large Charm of Dexterity, Annihilus, Hellfire Torch

    Base minimum damage: 20 * (1 [Base] + 0.15 [Superior] + 3.3 [Faith]) = 89
    Base maximum damage: 47 * (1 [Base] + 0.15 [Superior] + 3.3 [Faith]) = 209.15

    Minimum damage: 89 [Base] + 13 [Helm] + 54 [Jewels] + 26 [Rings] + 25 [Boots] = 207
    Maximum damage: 209.15 [Base] + 54 [Jewels] + 10 [Belt] + 25 [Boots] + 164 [Charms] = 462.15

    Strength: 20 [Base] + 15 [Gloves] + 10 [Boots] + 20 [Annihilus] + 20 [Hellfire Torch] + 10 [Points] = 95
    Dexterity: 25 [Base] + 15 [Belt] + 15 [Gloves] + 25 [Amulet] + 45 [Charms] + 495 [Points] = 620

    6.20 [Dexterity] + 3.00 [Body Armor] + 2.** [Fanaticism Aura] + 1.45 [Level 29 Guided Arrow] = 13.53

    13.53 * 455.1 = 6252
    13.53 * 207 = 2800
    Total damage: 2800 - 6252

    Rare bow deals less damage, cause you need to sacrifice too much to get the IAS breakpoint.

    Anyone think this can go higher?
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    15ed sup MB faith, you didnt mention

    You sure an 18 min/18 max jewel is better than a 40ed/9 dex jewel? Likewise, you sure you dont want an Artisan's Circlet of Nirvana instead?
     
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    Re: Maxing Bowzon PvP damage

    If you do that, then damage is: 2073 - 6044
    Compare with: 2800 - 6252

    Man I can't believe I missed superior >_>
    I edited the post before this one to account for that.
     

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