Max Block or Mass Vit?

soulesschild

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Final said:
Good BaBas own all if they no what their doing and what tactics to use tho ive seen some act like an idiot and follow sorcs and necros everywhere just askin to get killed :lol:. Max block is my best friend cause it only takes like 200 to get 80% at lvl 79 and i dont lvl to past 85 for some reason :(. After that i max Vit. I had somewhere around 800-1.2k with my last necro (boed with a 6 bo cta :p) with max block and rest to vit.
good barbs will not own ALL.

IMO its like this,

necro > barb

ES sorc > necro

Barb > ES sorc

kinda like paper rock scissors ;)
 

Sartok

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I just wanted to say, a very skilled ES sorc, can take most builds... the only thing stopping them is absorb. Which is very easy to do... either way. I love es builds, they are just ridiculously fun and good.

- Sartok
 

Tengu

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fallen angel of satan said:
ok this depends souly on what shield you are going to use

if you are going to use darforce then you are most likely chacing the 125 bp and once you have some practice can avoide all trouble + the dex required to max block with this head is insane

if you are using homunculus, max that block its worth it

trangs head(this is gd 4 poisenmancer b4 ppl think ime insane at mentioning this lol) Id say max block again

and a skilled barb will always own all :/ but 99.99999999% dont av a clue what they are doing. And in pubby they r just amsusing, they tele then wait 4 about 5mins b4 they ww lol, but thats just pubby duels 4 ya

if you look elsewhere you will see people debating marrowalk, if you dont mind these boots then they are very nice you can get over 1k Bone armour with ease this helps alot :D

Ime a great fan of bowzons so dont take this the wrong way, but they arnt quite the ownage char they used 2 b just tele in spirals or get very good at contoling your tele and they are np

so back to the question max block or vit, basically max block unless you are using darkforce bcoz the block on that head just sucks
ahem.

A good bonemancer should use homunculus (starting up), stormshield (vs. melee & windy druids) and darkforce spawn (vs. casters etc, so no max block needed here).. They all have their uses. Getting enough dex for max block on homu/ss doesn't make darkforce worthless, because it still has the potential +3 pb and the awesome +30% fcr.
 

fallen angel of satan

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Tengu you misunderstand me I was not sayin any of the 3 heads mentioned are better, because what you use depends on the reat of your gear and what type of necro you make. My poisenmancer uses trangs, my bone nec uses darkforce most of the time, but sometime homunc, so I use them all and they are all great heads :D

and a good baba does own all :D Tele with a really short ww destoys you prety easily, although has been mentioned most barbs cant duel very well at all so in 99% case of cases barb is alot worse than bone nec.
 

soulesschild

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fallen angel of satan said:
Tengu you misunderstand me I was not sayin any of the 3 heads mentioned are better, because what you use depends on the reat of your gear and what type of necro you make. My poisenmancer uses trangs, my bone nec uses darkforce most of the time, but sometime homunc, so I use them all and they are all great heads :D

and a good baba does own all :D Tele with a really short ww destoys you prety easily, although has been mentioned most barbs cant duel very well at all so in 99% case of cases barb is alot worse than bone nec.
ive dueled the top 2 barbs, blobs and revo on USWest NL, and i don't get "destroyed", nor do i get "owned", frankly i think i can go 50/50 or even 80/20, though i dont know who the 3rd top West barb is, but i do very very well agaisnt blobs and revo
 

xshinakuma

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soulesschild said:
ive dueled the top 2 barbs, blobs and revo on USWest NL, and i don't get "destroyed", nor do i get "owned", frankly i think i can go 50/50 or even 80/20, though i dont know who the 3rd top West barb is, but i do very very well agaisnt blobs and revo
i r poon barbies 2 :drool:

Seriously though, NO BARB can even go 50/50 against me...and that's if I'm playing nice. A good max block necro simply owns a good barb.
 

Final

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soulesschild said:
good barbs will not own ALL.

IMO its like this,

necro > barb

ES sorc > necro

Barb > ES sorc

kinda like paper rock scissors ;)
rock paper scissors yay!!! lol im bored
 

nightaswz

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wait.. can someone clear me up on something.. im planning on using both darkforce and homunculus
Now comes the question of max block or not.
Vs Casters i would use darkforce to reach a 125 fcr so putting dex seems a waste
Vs melee homunculus seems best but should i even go max block, considering the above? Also, with homun it would be impossible to reach 125 fcr without sacrificing 2x soj and maras =/
 

fallen angel of satan

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depending on your gear it will most likely be worth swopping out sojs or maras to hit 125% because it gives you so much more of an edge. Since you are going to use both then I personally recomend max block with homunc, because it is so useful v melee
 

Necrochild313

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nightaswz said:
wait.. can someone clear me up on something.. im planning on using both darkforce and homunculus
Now comes the question of max block or not.
Vs Casters i would use darkforce to reach a 125 fcr so putting dex seems a waste
Vs melee homunculus seems best but should i even go max block, considering the above? Also, with homun it would be impossible to reach 125 fcr without sacrificing 2x soj and maras =/
I know i'm not the only one who agrees that a fcr ring with res/mana really outshines an soj in the heat of combat.

In my opinion this is the order of importance for a bone necro

FCR
Resists
Blockrate/Life
+Skills
Mana

All of the above are quite important, so just because I'm deeming mana least important doesn't mean it's not your lifeblood, mind you ;)
 

soulesschild

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mana is not important because everyone mana pots, however i have enough mana to run every other necro out on west outta mana easily, heres how my necro is setup...

Caster:
2/30run walk/20 cast circlet, shaeled
2 pb/79 mana/18 cast ammy
3/3/2 darkforce, jahed
Hoto
2x Sojs
Imp Shanks/Sand Treks
crafted belt, 49 life, 19 mana, 24 FCR, 27 str, 5 FCR
magefists
enigma breast plate

Overall numbers:
3.6k life with oak/BO, 2.8k life with BO only
5.2k spear/spirit damage
1.2k mana
56 FHR


Vs. All Setup
2/30/20 circlet or a 2/20 cast/11 dex/13 all res circlet, both shaeled
same amulet
humonc, either Loed, Umed or Jahed
Wizspike with 7 fhr jewel, 9 str, and 6 all res
waterwalks
same crafted belt
2x eagle turns/legit rings when applicable
mage fists

overall numbers:
2.9k life
1.5k mana
4.2k spear/spirit damage
56 FHR
max block

Damage reduce setup:
Either the dex circlet or CoA with shael/7 fhr -15all req jewel
stormshield with -15 req, 5 dex, 15 mana jewel
same wizzy
same belt, switch with a 10 cast similar modded belt/arachnids when using CoA
waterwalks/impshanks
14 dex caster ring/eagle turn
magefists

Overall numbers:
Damage can be from 3.7k to 4.2k
56/86 FHR
Max damage reduce
2.6-2.8k life
Max block
1.1k-1.2k mana


Note: All setups have 125 FCR, at least 1k mana, and at least 56 FHR
 
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