Matriarch Margo, Max Physical Damage Enchantress (100% Deadly Strike)

zaphodbrx

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I was about to say: so should deadly strike for that matter; work with vengeance, that is. But when I went to double check that I found something saying it doesn't work with vengeance at all unlike say, berserk. Likely something to do with how early in the damage calculations vengeance is applied.

Or rather, more likely to be: that it pulls the phys damage from early in the calculations (before off weapon ED% crit/ds, etc...), but the elemental damage itself is likely applied AFTER deadly strike in the calculations, the same as I've seen it said of berserk.
Vengeance doesn't work that way. Only the damage of the weapon is taken into account for conversion, no off weapon ed, fortitude, deadly strike, etc. After the damage conversion, it is then multiplied by elemental masteries ( like enchant and the auras ), however I'm not sure if its multiplied twice ( like enchant/auras ) for melee attack, or just once.

Another thing to consider is that the elemental damage from vengeance is added in addition to the physical damage ,so you can leech off it (unlike berserk. In fact, vengeance is nothing like berserk ).

I used kingslayer champion axe - not ethereal, but with a perfect roll ( 270 ed! ), and it worked pretty good, 1 or 2 shotting monsters in early hell. However I was also testing ES at the time, and ES doesn't work well at all ( so the character was unstable ).
 

Espr

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Ah, I suppose I was unclear. I meant just that, that it elemental damage pulls from the base damage prior to any off weapon ED% effects. Though, afaik 'base damage' includes off weapon sources of +min/max damage, which makes sense as they too are added before offweapon ED% effects.

Incidentally, Passion's chance to terrify on hit is somewhat mitigated my an act3 cold merc's ability to make them stand still. Blind target seems to override it as well.
 
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nulio

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Grats on the singular project!

All this kingslayer talk made me want to show an old project of mine. ATMA Bugged 1.07 eGlorious Axe Kingslayer with Chaos Armor Threachery Sorc. Pics 1 2
Soooo sexy! The Axe currently belongs to janooo.
 

BlizzBallerSorc

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I did a little testing at home and found-
1. Venom procs pretty much immediately, and is basically always on. Since the chance to proc is 35%, this isn't surprising I suppose, but sometimes it seems like things proc more or less often than percentages would indicate. With reducing enemy poison resist 20-25% I suppose the Venom probably contributed to this characters overall performance more than I would have guessed. I also probably should have thrown some more poison damage small charms in the inventory to capitalize on that.
2. The sword did turn green when I didn't have Enchant on, but then when I cast Enchant, it turned back red.


Grats on the singular project!

All this kingslayer talk made me want to show an old project of mine. ATMA Bugged 1.07 eGlorious Axe Kingslayer with Chaos Armor Threachery Sorc. Pics 1 2
Soooo sexy! The Axe currently belongs to janooo.
Thanks, and I am now thinking that I will do a 2 handed avengeress in the future! All of these ideas of ATMA bugged axes have me eager to try it!
 

NoisemakerArrow

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Cheating is the path to the dark side.

Poison charms don't work well with Venom since their duration is reduced to 0.4 seconds.
 
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