Math question

[F1R3STR1D3R]

Math question

Say you had four of these charges (FoF, CoT, TS, PS) fully charged (3 charges) and released with dragon tail. You also have venom on.
How would all this get calculated?

Fists of Fire
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - fire damage: 4423-4865
Charge 2 - fire damage radius: 2.6 yards
Charge 3 - fire damage: 3468-3694 per second
Attack: +358 percent
Mana Cost: 2

Claws of Thunder
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - lightning damage: 2-9308
Charge 2 - nova damage: 2-5837
Charge 3 - charged bolt damage: 2-9204
Attack: +358 percent
Mana Cost: 4

Phoenix Strike
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - meteor damage 4968-5484
Fire Explosion Damage: 5202-5541 per second
Charge 2 - chain lightning damage 3-12744
Charge 3 - chaos ice bolt damage 1007-1062
Attack: +358

Tiger Strike
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - +1080 percent damage
Charge 2 - +2160 percent damage
Charge 3 - +3240 percent damage
Attack: +358 percent
Mana Cost: 1

Dragon Tail
Current Skill Level: 50
fire damage: +540 percent
Attack: +755 percent
Mana Cost: 10

Claw Mastery
Current Skill Level: 20
Damage: +111 percent
Attack: +220 percent
21 Percent Chance of Critical Strike

Venom
Current Skill Level: 20
Poison Damage: 425-445
over 0.4 seconds
Duration: 196 seconds
Mana Cost: 12


One big formula would be nice!

(With the kick formula included)

 

[monte cristo]

The elemental damage would be calculated separately. Not including claw mastery in it as well.

Tiger strike with the dual claw attack (Dragon Talon or Dragon Tail , don't remember) works wonders, as it doesn't sum up the %ed you get from them, but one works over another giving you incredible damage.

No calculations, sorry.. I'm sleepy =)

 

[F1R3STR1D3R]

Is the elemental damage for three charges in one skill added or multiplied or what? So would a full charged FoF do 7891-8559 with a radius of 2.6? Would fully charged CoT do 6-24349 if nova, and charged bolt hit the target? Would PS do 11180-24831 if everything hit the target? I'm assuming Tiger Strike is for physical damage, so I won't use that in the equation right now. Claw Mastery is for physical. Does dragon tail affect only the fire-based damage from say a stored charge? Or is it calculated differently? If it does affect only fire-based damage then it would do 18061*(1+5.4) = 115590 to 19584*(1+5.4) = 125337.
Add in another 425-445 poison damage from Venom. That makes a elemental total of 117031-163937. This is without physical damage... this can't be right.

 

[monte cristo]

I'm not Thrugg or RTB or someone equally knowledgeable about Diablo 2 (I wonder how often do they hear that), but yes, it is wrong.

All the accumulated charges will go off in one single attack.

All elemental damage is done separatly, including enemy resists in the calculation. Venom also.

Now for the physical damage, as it is interesting.

I was wrong to say this about the claw attack, the thing works for dragon tail. If you have tiger strike on, the damage will be boosted by A LOT! To make it as simple as possible and not to make my head hurt, lets say tiger does 1000%ed and tail another 200%ed. Normally it'd sum up to 1200%ed for your base kick damage. In this case, first is the 1000%ed applied. And the result is multiplied once again by the 200%ed from dragon tail. That gives power to this combination, making it possible to hit 30+k kicks. Also, the physical damage is dealt to every monster in range of the splash damage of the tail.

IIRC, the only case in which the physical damage is not applied is when you hit a fire immune upon release of the kick.

Sorry for the poor english and for stating the obvious so much =)

 

[Hrus]

Also, the physical damage is dealt to every monster in range of the splash damage of the tail.

IIRC, the only case in which the physical damage is not applied is when you hit a fire immune upon release of the kick.

Because the splash damage is all fire based IIRC

 

[Remlin]

Is the elemental damage for three charges in one skill added or multiplied or what? So would a full charged FoF do 7891-8559 with a radius of 2.6? Would fully charged CoT do 6-24349 if nova, and charged bolt hit the target? Would PS do 11180-24831 if everything hit the target? I'm assuming Tiger Strike is for physical damage, so I won't use that in the equation right now. Claw Mastery is for physical. Does dragon tail affect only the fire-based damage from say a stored charge? Or is it calculated differently? If it does affect only fire-based damage then it would do 18061*(1+5.4) = 115590 to 19584*(1+5.4) = 125337.
Add in another 425-445 poison damage from Venom. That makes a elemental total of 117031-163937. This is without physical damage... this can't be right.

No, when you charge up skills you will get the damage associated with that charge. So, charging up CoT will give you the charged bolt damage and the attack % but not the effects of charges 1 and 2.

 

[F1R3STR1D3R]

No, when you charge up skills you will get the damage associated with that charge. So, charging up CoT will give you the charged bolt damage and the attack % but not the effects of charges 1 and 2.

But, IIRC, you see all the special effects (art) of all three charges. Only the charged bolt does the damage?

 

[monte cristo]

Because the splash damage is all fire based IIRC

So are you saying that the physical tiger strike damage is converted to fire? If so, then it would be a logical explanation.

If you are saying though that the physical damage is not added to the splash damage, I am almost sure it is incorrect ^^

 

[RTB]

Fists of Fire
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - fire damage: 4423-4865
Charge 2 - fire damage radius: 2.6 yards
Charge 3 - fire damage: 3468-3694 per second

Applied like normal in the 2.6 yard radius. Note: Nullifies DTail dmg.

Claws of Thunder
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - lightning damage: 2-9308
Charge 2 - nova damage: 2-5837
Charge 3 - charged bolt damage: 2-9204

Charge 1: applied to target
Charge 2: applies to radius, but has nextdelay, thus tends to kill charged Bolt dmg and PS release. Dragon Tail knockback might allow just enough frames to pass for the Charged Bolts to hit at least once, same with Chaos Ice Bolts.

Phoenix Strike
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - meteor damage 4968-5484
Fire Explosion Damage: 5202-5541 per second
Charge 2 - chain lightning damage 3-12744
Charge 3 - chaos ice bolt damage 1007-1062

Charge 1+2 aren't applied, charge 3 is nullified by CoT Nova, unless a bolt hits after 4 frames.

Tiger Strike
Current Skill Level: 50
Charge 1 - +1080 percent damage
Charge 2 - +2160 percent damage
Charge 3 - +3240 percent damage

Charge 3 multiplies physical dmg (before conversion by FoF).

Dragon Tail
Current Skill Level: 50
fire damage: +540 percent

Takes the actual physical dmg dealt on the target, which is 0 in this case. The explosion does no dmg.

Claw Mastery
Current Skill Level: 20
Damage: +111 percent
Attack: +220 percent
21 Percent Chance of Critical Strike

Affects claw dmg at the same moment as Tiger Strike. CS doubles physical dmg before conversion.

Venom
Current Skill Level: 20
Poison Damage: 425-445
over 0.4 seconds
Duration: 196 seconds
Mana Cost: 12

Poison gets applied as usual.