Math & history.

Stoutwood

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Re: Math & history.

P.S. Jesus, that might be the dorkiest post I have ever written. Someone add some blood and boobs to this thread ASAP. :girly:
Not even close. You remember what brought you to this site in the first place right?

Welcome back by the way.



 

SnickerSnack

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Re: Math & history.

well now I'm convinced

:sleep::sleep::sleep:
I've got a question now. What was the boring part? The political imprisonment? The death in a duel? The fact that by the time he was 21 he had begun a branch of mathematics that is still studied today?


 

Dondrei

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Re: Math & history.

Come on, I'm a mathematician and even I think maths is boring.

Well, tbh I am pretty ignorant about math but I will give it a shot.

Unlike science, which is driven by empirically falsifiable hypotheses, math is driven by deductions and calculations from set definitions. Math is assumed to be a universal set of understood rules/processes and that would not vary based on language/culture (ie, you may have different words for 1 but the calculation of 1+1=2 is the same in any thinking system and will always be valid). In fact I believe many of the attempts to communicate with potential alien intelligences are math because there is the assumption that our math would be the same as their math, even if our language, culture, and thinking were radically different on everything else.

This article challenges those assumptions. To the extent the tribe has no concept of numbers in our sense (no concept of 1, much less 1+1) yet can still accurately calculate and solve mathematical problems, they are using some system of math that is different than our own. If this holds, this means our math is not the one true universal way.

Or so it appears to a guy who took like one math class in college, has no background training or expertise whatsoever, and just wanted to look cool on the intarblawg. =/
Not really. I think it's more interesting from a linguistics perspective really. Hasn't this one/two/many thing been known for quite a long time?



 

Sokar Rostau

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Re: Math & history.

I was taught in Year Six that the Pitjinjara count 1,2,3,4,5,6, many - and that was 20 years ago.
 

Ash Housewares

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Re: Math & history.

I've got a question now. What was the boring part? The political imprisonment? The death in a duel? The fact that by the time he was 21 he had begun a branch of mathematics that is still studied today?
yes, yes, especially yes

kek more old bumpage that nobody cares about



 

PFSS

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Re: Math & history.

Not really. I think it's more interesting from a linguistics perspective really. Hasn't this one/two/many thing been known for quite a long time?
Most people empirically learn about "One too many" at some point.


 

SnickerSnack

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Re: Math & history.

Come on, I'm a mathematician and even I think maths is boring.
You're disqualified. :grin:

Hasn't this one/two/many thing been known for quite a long time?
That has, but the article is about something that is apparently new to linguistics. These people have no absolute number terms. Everything is relative.

yes, yes, especially yes

kek more old bumpage that nobody cares about
What does interest you?


 
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