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Magruder's Law applied

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Sir EvilFreeSmeg, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. Sir EvilFreeSmeg

    Sir EvilFreeSmeg Banned

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    Magruder's Law applied

    READ ALL OF THIS BEFORE MAKING A JUDGEMENT


     
  2. FirsTimer

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    I think the egg came first.

    Anybody else? Chicken or egg?
     
  3. Moosashi

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    I agree with the basic idea of Magruder's Law, but it can be difficult to determine which side precipitated the slide toward the horrible pit, and which direction it will go, e.g., does Israel start terrorizing or does Hezbollah start a bombing campaign?

    Also, I wonder if all major wars always degenerate to atrocity- the absolute lowest. If the issue of the war is akin to life and death, would any side surrender before it's unleashed its nastiest and most desperate weapons? I think that might be more or less true, and as a consequence, all wars in which the U.S. feels highly threatened will end in U.S. victory or a radioactive globe.
     
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    What makes these terrorists Islamofascist?
     
  5. Sir EvilFreeSmeg

    Sir EvilFreeSmeg Banned

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    I've explained it before and if you'renot smart enough to get it, then nothing I give you ever will.
     
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    In which thread? I'll go and read your explanation, it should be amusing.
     
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    Dondrei IncGamers Member

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    No.

    The desire of Smeg to make unwarranted comparisons with WWII.

    Most of them, largely because of leaders with no backbone.
     
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    Hey what's up with that web page? It's poll shows a Bush disproval of almost 2 to 1. Is that true?
     
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    I was hoping for a list of comparisons :rolleyes:
     
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    1. Islamists are teh evil, just like Nazis are teh evil.

    2. We're like, totally going to win against terrorism just like we totally won against the Nazis.

    3. Anyway, you're too stupid to understand my amazing cogitations, so shoo.
     
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    I think Smeg is referring to the taliban, and our favorite axis of evil, the iranian government. Smeg feels their limiting of social freedoms makes them "fascist".

    The label is appropriate enough. I prefer they make that distinction than not, as were not at war with all muslims, just those that are trying to develop a single muslim nation state with extremely limited freedoms and a large degree of governmental control. This seems to have been the aim of Bin laden and several other groups. I would label such systems of government "Authoritarian" if I was being nice, and "Totalitarian" if I was being mean. I feel this is more appropriate because the economic freedoms that muslims under these types of regimes have are something of a farce. Some conservatives beleive that a coalition of similarly minded muslims would bring a new realm of atrocities similar to communists and facists of the last century.

    i think we need to vocalize more often this distinction. Much of this country seems to equate all muslims with "islamofascists". that's too bad.
     
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    Steve's close enough. For those that wold like to know more, go use your mastery (or lack thereof) of google-fu and research the ties Hitler had with the arabs back in the really bad old days. You'll find all sorts of interesting things.
     
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    No we aren't.
     
  14. Pier

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    The only fascist here is Smeg.

    His propaganda against the Islamic world sounds very similar to the anti-jewish rallies of Nazi-Germany.
    His unlimited trust in Dubya sounds very similar to the blind trust the Germans had in their Fuhrer.
    His advocation for taking on Iran and other parts of the world sounds very similar to the quest for "Lebensraum", which was actually a quest for the Caucasian oil fields.
    His anti-liberal statements sounds very similar to how the communists were dealt with in Germany in 1933.

    ...

    Grr pIER
     
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    *sight* and why would that be?
     
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    Similiarities might be there, now that you mention it. However, all this "they're nazis!" - "no, you're nazi!" makes you no better than him in this sense. Those similiarities, even if they were crystal clear, would not make him a fascist.
     
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    No, but wouldnt it certainly hint towards that?
     
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    The term is pretty apt. "Islamofascists" believe in a strong government with absolute authority (in the name of Allah) and they believe in the superiority and right to triumph of their culture (fundamentalist Islam). They see war and violence as a noble struggle sanctioned by God that will lead them to heaven. Jihad is glorified. That's fascism.

    Here are some definitions from an expert on fascism, quoted in Wiki:

     
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    Interesting thing about wars and history, it is largely written by the side that won/wins. The Nazis lost so it was written that they were evil and this is generally accepted around the world. If the Islamo’s lose then your statement will become a true statement and will be generally accepted around the world. Note I say generally, because you will always have those, most often in the minority and at different degrees of the minority, that will always say the opposite.
     

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