Magic Find Javazon/Baal runner

hackedagainanda

Diabloii.Net Member
My gear is
Griffons Eye
Mara's Kaleidoscope
20ias /15 strength, 15 dexterity
Ravenfrost
Chains of Honor
Silkweave boots
[email protected]/ 6 Mana leech
6 Java skillers
various life/mana small charms
Storm Shield
Call to arms/ spirit shield
Gheeds fortune


What do you think could be replaced to add some more MF? I'm farming for more runes for Enigma but I have a total of 65 MF right now, I'm hesitant to sacrifice killing speed for more drops.
 

Rawness

Diabloii.Net Member
Silkweave -> wts, i guess you will miss the MAEK though, but no speed will be sacked. 2 java -> 8xsc7mf (mana if you have them) = 45, with enigma + gheeds that should reach to 200 which is good enough. No MAEK though.
 
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hackedagainanda

Diabloii.Net Member
No it doesn't but I'm visting LK for some in the mean time when WSK gets a little boring.


@Rawness How important is IAS for running Baal? Will no IAS slow me down considerably? My 40% chance guards are looking tempting.
 

Rawness

Diabloii.Net Member
Well I assume that you are using upgraded titans? What is your current belt? If they arent that essential goldwrap 0 gloves gives you 30 ias which is 11 FPA throw / 9 FPA cs with a matriarchal javelin. Speed is less important in pvm than pvp, but abit annoying to be slow though.
 

Rawness

Diabloii.Net Member
Oh yeah, no matter then, those are a better choice. but you lose a couple of FPAs; so try it out and see if you lose any secs on the baal run, baal will probably be a little slower.
 

Loot Skywalker

Diabloii.Net Member
Razor tail pwns thunder god unless you really need the zorb. But you asking about MF... And I've always targeted
250. Because everyone in 1.13 targets 250... 250 is the MF-ing number to hit if you want to be a serious MF-er... More than 250 is great but completely not necessary, especially if it slows you down even by the smallest fraction, due to the harshness of diminishing returns beyond this point.


So 50 Travs, 40 ammy, 40 gheeds and a 30 nagel... That's gives you a 160 base. Add another 25 for your COH and you will see that you are 65 points short, which can be made up with charms, ist sockets, glove mods, or acquiring the runes for your enigma.

If for any reason you can't get to 250 without stretching, then only concern yourself with hitting 100. And if you are mid 60's Just add a few more charms and a what-not, maybe a nagel or ist socket, and you will have 100 mf.

Good luck.
 
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uglyfred

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Does receiving physical damage really concern you? The reason I ask is that I've never been a fan of Stormshield outside of PvP, since it requires so much str/dex (for max-block) that by default you're left with relatively low life. Having a CtA will mitigate that, but that's even more true if you're able to invest more into vitality by using a lower-requirements shield. However, I digress...

Aside from 35% DR, there's really nothing that special about stormshield, imho (I'm discounting the nice block % since it can be easily equaled or surpassed by lower-requirement shields once you consider total-stat-point investment). From my memories of running WSK/Baal with this build, if you're unable to avoid getting too close to Lister's pack or most doll explosions (50% physical damage), you're going to be up a creek no matter what - but otherwise physical damage isn't a huge threat in WSK/Baal runs as long as you remember you're not supposed to be a tank.

So I'd look at your shield slot as one option to upgrade. In particular, you could switch to Moser's Blessed Circle (upgraded to a Luna shield, it would have a 70% base block rate - only 2% lower than Stormshield, but requiring ~50 strength less). The +25 resist-all on Moser's could be upped to @63 with a couple of perfect diamonds - or @69 with 2xUm runes - and that large boost to all-resists can open up other equipment (read: MF) options elsewhere.

For one example, you might choose to now switch away from Mara's to get other, non-resists benefits from your amulet. For another idea, others have wisely pointed out swapping boots for WarTrav's. But there's an even more unorthodox (and stylish) idea that would boost your MF significantly: Tancred's boots + amulet. There's not a lot of great things from this set, but the 78% MF partial set bonus on the amulet looks tempting for a slot that seldom provides much MF. You'd miss the +2 skills from Mara's, but otherwise you're really not loosing much.

If you think this idea is ridiculous, consider: Someone above suggested dropping 2 skillers for some MF charms and that wasn't dismissed as off the wall... ~45MF Wartrav's + Mara's +~40 MF of charms by dropping 2 skillers is quite close to having 78MF from Tancreds + 2 more skillers (relatively). Straight up with only swapping those items, you'd loose some resists (Mara's) and a little bit of life (+skills for Battle Orders), so it wouldn't make a lot of sense. But if you also swap the shields like I suggested and respec'ed your stat points accordingly, you'd get those resists back and more, and also more life overall too - but you'd loose Stormshield's 35% DR.


PS. Once you get Enigma, I'd choose Enigma + Maras + Watrav's + upgraded Moser's (2xPDiamond).
 
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mir

Diabloii.Net Member
My gear is
Griffons Eye
Mara's Kaleidoscope
20ias /15 strength, 15 dexterity
Ravenfrost
Chains of Honor
Silkweave boots
[email protected]/ 6 Mana leech
6 Java skillers
various life/mana small charms
Storm Shield
Call to arms/ spirit shield
Gheeds fortune


What do you think could be replaced to add some more MF? I'm farming for more runes for Enigma but I have a total of 65 MF right now, I'm hesitant to sacrifice killing speed for more drops.
To get more MF I would use:

Griffons Eye --> Shako with PTopaz/Shael/ias Jewel/maybe even lightning RFJ (74 mf, +2 skills)
Mara's Kaleidoscope --> Rare/crafted amulet with skills & resists & mf. Another option is 'crescent moon' amulet, + to mana, and high ML & LL will alow you to use nagel
20ias /15 strength, 15 dexterity (gloves?)
Ravenfrost
Chains of Honor
Silkweave boots --> WT but only if you can use soj
[email protected]/ 6 Mana leech
6 Java skillers --> 3-4 skillers (I prefer 3) use the free space for mf small charms or resists charms
various life/mana small charms --> replace some with mf charms
Storm Shield --> Rhyme, mf, CBF, [email protected] You can drop raven for another ring
Call to arms/ spirit shield
Gheeds fortune

OFC it depend on how much you willing to sacrifice killing speed...
 

mir

Diabloii.Net Member
It depend on your resists (must keep them close to max or better). I would hesitate to change CoH becuse it's baal runs so you do need safety and some power (much higher resist bonus, +2 to skills and even some %DR)
 
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