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# Magic Find% and Set Pieces

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Metropolis Man, Oct 30, 2006.

1. ### Metropolis ManIncGamers Member

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Magic Find% and Set Pieces

I noticed in the Facts and Formula Archive the following formula for set pieces: (MF*500)/(MF+500) cannot exceed 500.
Could someone explain this to me? I'm looking to build a MF character with the purpose of collecting as many Set pieces as possible and would like to know at what point does it really not make sense to increase MF. Thanks.

2. ### GreyGhostBanned

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1. The sets are useless for the most part, except for individual pieces that may be trade bait. Combining powerful uniques and rares will always yield better results than using a full set.

2. Say you have 300% MF, then (300*500)/(300+500) = 150,000/800 = 187.50. So you have roughly a 185% chance of finding a set item. As you can see, it would take a very high amount of overall MF to surpass 500% on sets. Even 2000% "overall MF" would only give you 333% "set MF" with this formula. This is called diminishing returns.

3. A reasonable goal for MF for beginners is 300%. More than 300% starts to yield greater diminishing returns, meaning that you sacrifice serious kill speed to add just a little bit of MF. However, if you can afford some of the more powerful uniques, you may be able to stack between 400%-500% MF. If you can stack 500% MF and still kill at a decent pace, stick with it.

3. ### Metropolis ManIncGamers Member

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185% chance to find a Set item. Again, please explain for my math-challenged brain. If I would kill a monster, and had 300% MF, what would be the chance of Normal/Rare/Unique/Set item dropping?

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Magic Find | Magical * | Rares * | Set Items * | Uniques *
0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0%
100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100%
150% | 150% | 146% | 145% | 141%
200% | 200% | 185% | 183% | 171%
250% | 250% | 220% | 215% | 193%
300% | 300% | 250% | 242% | 211%
400% | 400% | 300% | 287% | 236%
500% | 500% | 340% | 322% | 253%
600% | 600% | 372% | 350% | 266%

From chart found at : http://www.diabloii.net/strategy/x-guides/magic-find.shtml

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It's a 185% better chance of finding a set item. The "base" chance of finding a set item from a particular monster varies, so unfortunately there's really no more elaboration to give on the subject except that you should check out ATMA's drop calculator (should be able to download it from the Single Player Forum).

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For better understanding of MF mechanics, I suggest reading my MF guide. Check my signature for the link.
I guess that it's more indpepth than you would like.