Lycan + Oak Sage = Don’t add up right!

goneil

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Lycan + Oak Sage = Don’t add up right!

I was adding up some numbers to see how many hit-points BO on CTA would add to my WereBear, when I came across this problem.

I’m pretty sure that +life %’s stack so I was going to add the +life percentages I got from Lycantrhopy, Werebear, and Oak Sage.
Going into werebear form should add 220% with my skill levels (this is including the 50% bears start with and the bonus from lycantropy)
Oak sage should add 150%

So 150% + 220% = 370%

Then I added 370% to my current life, which at the moment happened to be exactly 1000.

So 1000 + 370% = 4700 , but here’s the problem, my life in bear form with oak sage cast (while outside of town) is only 4075 not the 4700 that I should have.

I did some further calculations to find out what % I was actually receiving from each skill and found out that werebear form was only adding 185% rather then 220%, and that Oak sage is only adding 125% instead of 150%. So somewhere I’m losing 60%!!!

What I want to find out is where that 60% went because that’s quite a big chunk of hp that I’m missing. I would appreciate any information you can give me about this. Chances are good its just something stupid that I overlooked, but I just want to be sure.

Here are the numbers and info I used:

Base life – 1000
Life in werebear form (w/o oak sage cast) – 2828
Life with oak sage cast in human form – 2247
Total life (oak sage cast in werebear form) – 4075

Level 31 Lycanthropy +170% life
Level 31 Werebear +50% Life
+220% Life

Level 25 Oak Sage +150% Life

Grand total of +370% Life

I thought the problem might have come from my +skill gear so I took it off and I’m still missing 25%. I’m missing 12% from werebear form and 13% from Oak sage still. Where are these % going?

I’m pretty sure my gear isn’t the problem because I’m still missing 25% without it on, but ill list it anyway:

Jalals Mane, +2 to druid skills, +2 to shapeshifting skills
Highlords Wrath, +1 to all skills
Beast Caddy,+3 to werebear and lycanthopy
Stone armor
Stormshield
Draculs Grasp
Raven Frost
Verdungos
Bul Khathos ring, +1 to all skills
Gore Rider boots
Annihilus, +1 to all skills
+1 shapeshift charm
and some life charms
 

mythyras

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah + vit, +life on clvl and +vit on clvl don't get amplified by shifting or oak sage.

Also try calculating you life w/ the bonus from werebear then calculate it after oak sage instead of adding the 2 together.
 

Salo

Diabloii.Net Member
mythyras said:
Yeah + vit, +life on clvl and +vit on clvl don't get amplified by shifting or oak sage.

Also try calculating you life w/ the bonus from werebear then calculate it after oak sage instead of adding the 2 together.

what does get amplified with shifting and oak sage?

then like what the heck is the point of getting so much life items? none?

jah in my ss wouldnt get multiplied?
 

Soepgroente

Diabloii.Net Member
Vitality & straight +life gets multiplied (charms, jah in shield etc) also life you gain each lvl i believe.
 

Salo

Diabloii.Net Member
Soepgroente said:
Vitality & straight +life gets multiplied (charms, jah in shield etc) also life you gain each lvl i believe.

hm someone above you said vitality does not. nor does straight life. lol. that cannot be.

you must be correct. and so, a jah in shield might be a better choice than a shael hm?
1 frame better block but jah ='s about 150 life or more with werebear going. in a flaming rabies build in pvp, 150 life is a lot, no?
 

mepersoner

Diabloii.Net Member
Interesting, I was under the impression just life/vita on level didn't get calc'd in. I wasn't aware that vita didn't get calculated in if it was off gear at all...
 

Soepgroente

Diabloii.Net Member
Doesn't multiply:

+life (based on character level) -> shako main example
+vitality (based on character level) -> hellslower for ex.
+vitality -> verdungo's

Does multiply:

+life -> charms, 4sock lightarmors +100 life etc
placed vitality through stat points
 

Salo

Diabloii.Net Member
Soepgroente said:
Doesn't multiply:

+life (based on character level) -> shako main example
+vitality (based on character level) -> hellslower for ex.
+vitality -> verdungo's

Does multiply:

+life -> charms, 4sock lightarmors +100 life etc
placed vitality through stat points

er hm. so like a pruby does, a jah shield does.
what about a naked guy with no items? I see my old 3/20/20's are particularly still very useful. hm.

hm shako doesnt do much with the build. disheartening!
 
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