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Lycan + Oak Sage = Don’t add up right!

Discussion in 'Druid' started by goneil, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. goneil

    goneil IncGamers Member

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    Lycan + Oak Sage = Don’t add up right!

    I was adding up some numbers to see how many hit-points BO on CTA would add to my WereBear, when I came across this problem.

    I’m pretty sure that +life %’s stack so I was going to add the +life percentages I got from Lycantrhopy, Werebear, and Oak Sage.
    Going into werebear form should add 220% with my skill levels (this is including the 50% bears start with and the bonus from lycantropy)
    Oak sage should add 150%

    So 150% + 220% = 370%

    Then I added 370% to my current life, which at the moment happened to be exactly 1000.

    So 1000 + 370% = 4700 , but here’s the problem, my life in bear form with oak sage cast (while outside of town) is only 4075 not the 4700 that I should have.

    I did some further calculations to find out what % I was actually receiving from each skill and found out that werebear form was only adding 185% rather then 220%, and that Oak sage is only adding 125% instead of 150%. So somewhere I’m losing 60%!!!

    What I want to find out is where that 60% went because that’s quite a big chunk of hp that I’m missing. I would appreciate any information you can give me about this. Chances are good its just something stupid that I overlooked, but I just want to be sure.

    Here are the numbers and info I used:

    Base life – 1000
    Life in werebear form (w/o oak sage cast) – 2828
    Life with oak sage cast in human form – 2247
    Total life (oak sage cast in werebear form) – 4075

    Level 31 Lycanthropy +170% life
    Level 31 Werebear +50% Life
    +220% Life

    Level 25 Oak Sage +150% Life

    Grand total of +370% Life

    I thought the problem might have come from my +skill gear so I took it off and I’m still missing 25%. I’m missing 12% from werebear form and 13% from Oak sage still. Where are these % going?

    I’m pretty sure my gear isn’t the problem because I’m still missing 25% without it on, but ill list it anyway:

    Jalals Mane, +2 to druid skills, +2 to shapeshifting skills
    Highlords Wrath, +1 to all skills
    Beast Caddy,+3 to werebear and lycanthopy
    Stone armor
    Stormshield
    Draculs Grasp
    Raven Frost
    Verdungos
    Bul Khathos ring, +1 to all skills
    Gore Rider boots
    Annihilus, +1 to all skills
    +1 shapeshift charm
    and some life charms
     
  2. alainpp66

    alainpp66 IncGamers Member

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    It's the Verdungo's, Stone and Annihilus.

    +Vit from items isn't enhanced by +Life%.
     
  3. proudfoot

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    Yep, Alain nailed it. Try it naked with no charms and it should compute just fine.
     
  4. Tor

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    ur not adding right then ^_______^
     
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    goneil IncGamers Member

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    Thanks guys. I knew it was just something stupid like that.
     
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    mythyras IncGamers Member

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    Yeah + vit, +life on clvl and +vit on clvl don't get amplified by shifting or oak sage.

    Also try calculating you life w/ the bonus from werebear then calculate it after oak sage instead of adding the 2 together.
     
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    what does get amplified with shifting and oak sage?

    then like what the heck is the point of getting so much life items? none?

    jah in my ss wouldnt get multiplied?
     
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    Soepgroente IncGamers Member

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    Vitality & straight +life gets multiplied (charms, jah in shield etc) also life you gain each lvl i believe.
     
  9. Salo

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    hm someone above you said vitality does not. nor does straight life. lol. that cannot be.

    you must be correct. and so, a jah in shield might be a better choice than a shael hm?
    1 frame better block but jah ='s about 150 life or more with werebear going. in a flaming rabies build in pvp, 150 life is a lot, no?
     
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    mepersoner IncGamers Member

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    Interesting, I was under the impression just life/vita on level didn't get calc'd in. I wasn't aware that vita didn't get calculated in if it was off gear at all...
     
  11. Soepgroente

    Soepgroente IncGamers Member

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    Doesn't multiply:

    +life (based on character level) -> shako main example
    +vitality (based on character level) -> hellslower for ex.
    +vitality -> verdungo's

    Does multiply:

    +life -> charms, 4sock lightarmors +100 life etc
    placed vitality through stat points
     
  12. Salo

    Salo IncGamers Member

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    er hm. so like a pruby does, a jah shield does.
    what about a naked guy with no items? I see my old 3/20/20's are particularly still very useful. hm.

    hm shako doesnt do much with the build. disheartening!
     

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