lvl 30 lld whirlwinder?????

[Swirl]

lvl 30 lld whirlwinder?????

I had an idea about a 30 ww? and i am not sure of gear but i know some euipment that could be useful

Wep: Insight in polearm?
helm: 3+ whirlwind 30s barb helm soc with 15 max?
ammy: Angelics
Ring#1: Angelics for Ar?
Ring#2: angelics or soj?
Armour: Not sure about this?
Gloves: Bloodfist?
Belt: Not sure

Charms: ehhh 15 lifers w/ar?

Ww skills:
10 polearm mastery
1 iron skin
1 natural resist
1 bash
1 leap
1 leap attack
1 stun
1 concentrate
1 whirlwind
1 howl
1 shout
10 Battle orders

Stats

Str: enough for equipment?
dex: Dont knoe
Vit:Rest in here
Energy:nun because insights meditation.​

 

[akumaxxyz]

first dont use 2 hand weapon, you will get kill by all kinds of melee maybe except charge.
use 2x shael 4x ed max jewel naga, or one godly eth rare naga with 30ias and self repair

 

[Swirl]

Thanks i will remeber that...

 

[jakotaco]

Thanks i will remeber that...

Honor Weapons are also a good choise, bloodletter swords are fine aswell.

For dmg you could use some +dmg jewels or +dmg charms (preferably with life) Then the armor could either be something with sockets and life (Artisan's Mage Plate of the Squid would be perfect) cheaper alternatives would be any 4socket armor or even cheaper as +max jewels can be very costly anyway. "Peace" Armor. Nice critical strike and also the valueable chance to cast slow missiles (most opponents are ranged at this lvl) Belt can be something such as "Nightsmoke" (you will need dmg to mana or lots of mana pots) Bladebuckle, Death's Belt, Crafted or rare with fhr/life and such.

Remember that WW costs a lot of mana, some charms or maybe a ring should give mana unless you wants to be drinking pot after pot.

besides :you can't have 10 BO at this level.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

+any ww helm is acceptable since it's a tough one to come by. 20 max is the "base" +max for lvl 30's and it can be up to 24.

grab a hell rush.

 

[Zangeif]

8 frame ww is way too slow. You should dual wield and put on a shield vs. melee.

Weapon choices:

2x bloodletter - decent dmg and skills, but range 1 sucks

Honor naga + naga with 2xshael 4xjewel - very good choice

classic exec swords from your server that hit 4 frame ww with a shael - best choice.

The helm is very hard to find as combat skills are all rare to find on barb helms (except leap).

20 max is the "base" +max for lvl 30's and it can be up to 24.

I don't know what this means. 24 max is attained with a 9max prefix and a 15max suffix though.

 

[ropa]

I have a really succesfull one in Europe Softcore Ladder.

And no, you don't need a shield against Melee, in fact, you'll beat all melee if you have good gear

This is what mine uses:

Helm:

3 to battle orders
56life
45 max damage
(2 sockets, 22 and 23 max damage jewels)

Armor:

Peace runeword (for the +2 critical, makes a huge difference)

Weapon 1: Honor Naga

Weapon 2: 6 socket Naga with 2 shaels (to reach ww breakpoint) and rest max dmg %ed jewels, it has the same damage as honor.

Gloves, Belt and Boots: IK

Ring 1: Angelic

Ring 2: 117ar 7str 80mana (mana needed to WW )

Amulet: Angelic

Switch: 2x spirits for Bo

With charms, that took me quite a long time to get he has:

1200+1120 WW damage

1900 life after BO

6500 Ar

WW LLD is one of the most versatile builds. it is not cheap though and I'm still trying to complete it (still looking for that damn +3ww 3socket barb helm that seems impossible to find!).

I'm also building an armor, it has 3 sockets and 68 life (max is 80), so far 2 jewels in, 43 max damage (20 and 23). But that's only for style, Peace does more damage even though the artisan's armor could be argued is more consistant.

Anyway, if you have any questions feel free to PM me

 

[jakotaco]

And no, you don't need a shield against Melee, in fact, you'll beat all melee if you have good gear

Unless that other melee is another ww barb with good gear and maxblock. But I agree, shield is rarely needed. vs knockback amazons it's useful though...

Gloves, Belt and Boots: IK

which level is yours? afaik the boots are lvl 31.

And btw: nice helm - now I know where that one ended up :wink:

 

[ropa]

Yes, I agree with you, however I didn't go max block and I only have 50% block with an artisan's tower shield of deflecting so I take my chances against Zons and WW barbs Without using a shield, there's not many WW barbs in EUSCL and so far I haven't required a shield, also, if the zon beats me while I use 2 weapons chances are it'll also win if I use a shield.

Yeah I went a bit over the level mark to use those.

I got the helm from w00tie, it was originally yours?

 

[jakotaco]

Yes, I agree with you, however I didn't go max block and I only have 50% block with an artisan's tower shield of deflecting so I take my chances against Zons and WW barbs Without using a shield, there's not many WW barbs in EUSCL and so far I haven't required a shield, also, if the zon beats me while I use 2 weapons chances are it'll also win if I use a shield.

Guess you're right about that, I have a Whistan in stash which I reach maxblock with. But I end up using it very rarely.

I got the helm from w00tie, it was originally yours?

Nah, but I was also dealing for it... But didn't have the funds at the time, and when I had it was already sold. Anyway, I went for a budget alternative with some 3sox avenger guard with some BO. But as I in the meanwhile had used some crap helm with an "Ith" rune I had got so used to relying on the dtm so the new helm ended up pruby, "IthIth".

I should be ashamed I know... But the char works well enough in pubs :thumbsup:

 

[Rabbitz]

I know your on euro to ropa, pm me if your up for duels =)

 

[Uncle_Mike]

I know your on euro to ropa, pm me if your up for duels =)

You seem to have actually posted instead of sending a PM yourself :tongue:

Let's keep this on topic :wink3:

 

[crawlingdeadman]

I don't know what this means. 24 max is attained with a 9max prefix and a 15max suffix though.

what i was refering to was that at lvl 9, +9max is the "base" +max jewel for the level; at 18, +15max is the "base" for the level; and at 30, +20max is the "base". by base i was simply refering to the fact that if a jewel doesnt have at least that much +max damage at that level it better have some other nice mods. i know 14, 20, and 24 are the best* for the respective levels, but unless you're just starting out there's no reason to put 15 maxers in items intended for a lvl 30. at the very least use the "base" (maybe there's a better term...) and try to improve from that.

*note: i know good ed%/+max or min-max can be better in certain circumstances, but for general use these are the "best" for their level.

 

[Zangeif]

Dual wield WW won't beat top of the line melee chars. You need a shield to beat elite melee.

Peace is a decent armor, but a 3os life armor with maxers is better. This is especially true if you are using honor. The deadly strike from mastery and honor doesn't stack properly with crit strike so you won't be getting as much extra % chance to crit as you would with another weapon.

Ropa - I would never sacrifice a socket for 56 base life. I don't like your helm choice.

 

[akumaxxyz]

you simply get kill by good melees with no shield, just try dueling 10kdef defiance zealots. the only advantage you have is over smiters maybe with dual wield

 

[Barrynor]

If you want to try WW_ing a bit without investing $$$ into gear you might not use afterwards, get two bloodletters, two shaels, angelic rings+ammy, 4 sock armor, 3 sock helmet, socket everything with prubies, sanders boots and bloodfist and then uhm some_belt (who cares). cheap, 3K life, and funny.

 

[Swirl]

I've made me barb Ww lld but sumthin rong

My lvl 30 ww barb lld only takes 500 dmg when i was aiming for 1k.
And his health is only 650 probably because of charm shortage.
i will list stats, euip, skills.

Str:121
Dex:Base
Vit:bout 40
ener:none

Helm: rare barb helm 1 to barb skills 20 bonus att rating 1osk with shael
ammy: Angelics
Armoureace in Mageplate
wepon: Honor Naga
Wepon2havent got yet but gettting) 6os Naga with 2 shaels and rest max dmg jewels
Ring1:Angelics
Ring2:86 mana boost and 130 ar
Boots:Tearhaunch
Gloves:Not sure
Belt:Not sure
Switch1:magical 2+ warcries sword
Switch2:Nothing but gettin spirit
Charms: Got a few 3 max/12 ar

20 axe mastery
1bash
1 leap
1 stun
1 leap attack
1 concentrate
1 Whirlwind
1 howl
1 shout
2 BO

With skill quests i have done the whole of normal and i put 1 in BC, Bo, 2 iron skin, 1 Nat res
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[st-hearts]

You didn't need to make another thread when your first thread was still on the same page.

That being said, quite a bit of the damage for a WW barbarian comes from their charms and gear. Since you aren't using a 3 socket helm, you're missing out on potentially 72 max damage before damage multipliers.

~Hearts~

 

[Uncle_Mike]

You didn't need to make another thread when your first thread was still on the same page.

That being said, quite a bit of the damage for a WW barbarian comes from their charms and gear. Since you aren't using a 3 socket helm, you're missing out on potentially 72 max damage before damage multipliers.

~Hearts~

I've merged both Swirl's threads...

@Swirl - you should have posted in your old thread - there was no reason to create a new one.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

when you make a hld character do you whine about their damage when they're half charmed/geared?

every
little
bit
helps
a lot

here's some damage comparisons:
18 zealot w/ 15 maxed twitch
18 zealot w/ 19 maxed twitch
4 damage difference in jewels = 20 damage difference on character

30 bowa w/ 30 maxed helm
30 bowa w/ 40 maxed helm
10 damage difference in jewels = 34 damage difference on character

the more total ed% your character has through mastery, jewels, whatever the more any +max damage will help.