Looking for vambraces I figure the best way is to gamble, since I'm at least gauranteed of chain gloves and then only need a roll to get elites. This will cost money, but as I go out and get more with whatever characters I use to magic-find that can imply drops, as well. Is there an ideal way to figure this out, i.e. ATMA for gambling odds/where the most likely monsters to drop them, or have I pretty hit the nail on the head? BTW, I've never downloaded ATMA, so I wouldn't really know much about that program or what it does, etc.