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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Amra, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. jmervyn

    jmervyn Diabloii.Net Member

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    Re: London Chaos

    Pitifully, some on the GW OTF are rejecting the obvious, preferring to believe anything but. "Red" Ken Livingstone claims it's because the EBIL KKKonservatives shut down the YMCA-equivalents with their hateful austerity measures.



     
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    Re: London Chaos

    Guy from TX said the riots could not have happened there we have guns!

    I told him he he had no class.
    :D

    http://wsm.ie/c/eyewitness-london-riots-class-race-2011

    What's happened in the rioting is an understandable reaction to the way things are set up – I’m reminded of the famous bank robber Willie Sutton answering the question ‘why do you rob banks?’ with ‘because that’s where the money is’. The kids robbed the shops because that's where the stuff is. They attacked the cops because they'd stop them. It was simultaneous, it was not two groups of people, one with a beef against the cops and another with light fingers – it was one group of mainly young people. They didn't attack each other, rape people, mug people - I was able to walk freely amongst them in my shirt and slacks straight from work; lots of people who were obviously not rioting walked with the crowd in daylight – many have said the mood turned later on but actually I stayed with it with a friend, who was also not dressed to fit in, until after midnight.




    Sikhs defending their own Temple during London Riots

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    Sikhs defending their own Temple during London Riots


     
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    Re: London Chaos

    Poor blokes. :coffee:
     
  5. BobCox2

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    Re: London Chaos

    I have been robbed.
    I want the robber and the cameraman now though.
    5 min with a Baseball bat and they should live.
     
  6. Amra

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    Re: London Chaos

    The pictures show otherwise. I guess it all depends on when and where you were.



     
  7. jmervyn

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    Re: London Chaos

    I suspect that was actually personal anecdote, but Bob didn't cite it intelligibly. It's quite obvious that these wretched little feckers are middle- and even upper-class twits of the year, and that they indeed were robbing or attacking passer-by.

    GoGo atheist socialism!



     
  8. TheNix

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    Re: London Chaos

    It all goes to show the humans are simply sheep, give them a direction and they'll stampede that way. Stupid, mindless sheep!
     
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    Re: London Chaos

    This article will brighten your day.
    Hey now, there's plenty of moral atheists out there. Moral socialists on the other hand . . . :whistling:



     
  10. BobCox2

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    Re: London Chaos

    It's a direct quote from the story at the link RTFA Arma & JMervyn 4'th Pargraph.

    They do at that point - this type of choice could have been avoided .

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    Re: London Chaos

    Seems this "flash mob" is spreading to other cities around the globe. :-/
     
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    I'm pretty sure I read it linked elsewhere, or something like it. The hee-larious part is that Red Ken is claiming it's due to cuts - that haven't yet taken effect.
    Well, at issue is the self-centered belief system; why shouldn't an atheist go out and steal? It's not like the big, bad FSM-like entity is going to stand in judgement of your actions someday.
    Thanks, but no thanks. Your article was so incredibly biased that there wasn't much cred to it in the first place. Point of fact - many of the rioters are white middle-income yobs. All the pinko grievance mongering is just a pitiful attempt to deny what the end result invariably is.



     
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    You've either read too little or too much Asimov. :p

    And many more of them weren't. Unless with white middle-income yobs you mean black teenagers.



     
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    Is that implying that the only reason religious people don't loot/steal (and they do btw) is because they're afraid of 'god' slapping them on the wrist at the end of time?

    "I don't wanna do anything bad cuz I might get caught!"

    Talk about self-centered...


     
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    Its more like: I don't want to disappoint God, than I don't want to get caught.

    But I'm not saying that many people don't operate off of the don't get caught idea, it's just not the way I view things.
     
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    Because it's the wrong thing to do, you don't need a god to see that it's morally wrong to steal. In fact the immoral actions of the biblical god (as written in the bible, mostly old testament) is one of the prime reasons many christians start questioning their beliefs and end up becoming atheists. :whistling:



     
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    Re: London Chaos

    You have to participate in the moral ethical beliefs of the society\community for it and you to work well.
    The Golden Rule of "do onto others as you would have them do onto you" works much better than the 11th commandment in the long term.
    No god required just reason and judgment

    Even Warren Buffet can see that.
     
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    Love your Sig on that one.

    :D


     
  20. jmervyn

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    Re: London Chaos

    I like him, but that doesn't mean I think he's a demigod. It's like hearing that jackanapes Dick Dawkins, who atheists regard along the lines of their Pope, tell Ben Stein that it's okay to say that creation came from space aliens but not from a deity.
    Reporting that I've seen suggests the mob was truly multi-racial, and that anyone trying to peddle race hatred is a filthy liar.
    You do, however, require a complex indoctrination in morality which atheists absorb from the religious mores they despise so. Otherwise, you very much need a god in order to tell one that they shouldn't steal or kill from the "other". In pretty much the VERY FECKIN' FASHION THAT THE YOBS DID! :girly:
    Yeah, that must be why actual (as opposed to nominal) Christians are falling all over themselves to self-excommunicate. Gee, with so many of us God-fearing folk deciding that we've been rubes and that believers are just <so> inferior to us, you'd expect that we'd number over 2% of the general U.S. population by now. It's not like we've not had the past forty years to scream obscenity and shout "God is Dead" from the rooftops.

    Of course, Londoners are <so> morally superior to us st00pid yanks, clinging to our guns & religion - the British population is nearly 40% atheist, which for some STRANGE reason might explain why they didn't give a flying feck about their fellow citizens. :wink:



     

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