Latest Diablo 3 News
DiabloWiki Updates
Support the site! Become a Diablo: IncGamers PAL - Remove ads and more!

LLD warcry barb ???

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by jordy666, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. jordy666

    jordy666 IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2004
    Messages:
    1,657
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    LLD warcry barb ???

    witht the comming of spirit, i though if u duel wield spirit swords u get:
    70 fcr
    110 fhr
    200+ mana
    some magic absorb
    +4 skills

    so if i get hellboosted i get 41 skill points:
    skills:
    lvl 6 BO
    lvl 1 warcry
    lvl 1 nat res
    lvl 1 res
    lvl 1 run
    prereq's
    rest in warcry synrgies

    gear:
    spirit sword 35 fcr
    spirit sword 35 fcr
    vipermagi 30
    soj
    soj
    +1 barb/10 fcr/mana/life amu
    frosties/magefist/bloodfist
    boots :)
    string of teh ears

    lvl 9 warcry with some synrg does:
    Damage: 168-192
    Stun Length: 2.6 seconds
    Mana Cost: 18

    not too shabby ^^

    is it worth trying or just another idea for jordy's duelers bin

    -jordy :king:
     
  2. Tridge

    Tridge IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2003
    Messages:
    416
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    98
    thing with this build is, its extremely dependant on charms, to the point where if you don't have absolutely perfect items, it isn't worth doing.
    you'll need to stock up on 15/12 charms (or close to that) in order to have enough mana to continuously cast the warcry, wich is relatively weak in and of itself, being that is is physical damage, and can be blocked.
    another thing about this is that it is all too easily negated by stacked sol runes, or like.. ironpelt armor. the way it kills is with 7/8 fpc stunlock, much like a toned down version of smite. the way you've layed out gives it what, 10 pure physical damage a/p and before reduction? eh.. that gets killed by 1 sol rune, or some newby with duskdeep, although i really don't think it would be all that low of damage, it is a low damage skill at this level nonetheless.
    it isn't totally worth discounting though, and if i were allowed to tell you where to go for more in-depth lld information, i would (but iirc i can't x_x ).
     
  3. Herald of Doom

    Herald of Doom IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2003
    Messages:
    2,610
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    122
    decent lvl 30 chars do 5 times that dmg. You could pk pubbies with it I guess, but serious lvl 29ers wont be beaten by it. I'd say even my lvl 18 pala could win from that dude :p

    HoD
     
  4. NefariousNothing

    NefariousNothing IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Messages:
    159
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    I tried something like this, and as was said -- if your charms are no good, chances are slim you'll be able to compete. But hey, it's a very fun build. I'd go with the frosties, seeing as you'll need all the mana you can get.
     
  5. rikstaker

    rikstaker IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,318
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    256
    :uhhuh:

    After pvp penalty:
    Damage:28-32.
    If opponents use strings/rockfleece it would be 21-24.

    Send to jordy's duelers bin.

    Rik
     
  6. Zangeif

    Zangeif IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,552
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Warcry barbs do work at level 30. They aren't the strongest build but they are definately capable of killing some other LLD characters.

    Use spirit sword and spirit shield, not 2 swords.

    Use +2 warcries 10 fcr amulet, not +1 barb

    If you can find a +2 warcries +3 warcry helm, you're looking good.

    Wear bloodfists as more fcr will not accomplish anything.

    Put 1 into Battle Command.

    You will hit the 105 fcr breakpoint and your warcry will do 260-285

    There's also a level 33 build that hits 200 fcr with dual wielding suicide branches.
     
  7. Matt

    Matt IncGamers Site Pal

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Messages:
    4,163
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    467
    I think you'll be looking for a loooong time (as in, forever) for a 4 socket, non paladin shield for level 30.


    I'd also say this build is unique, though less than effective. Your damage is simply too low compared to the competition at level 30. If you're looking to put spirit to good use on a caster, might I suggest a mid 30's hammerdin? Great build.

    -Matt
     
  8. Zangeif

    Zangeif IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,552
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Doh... forget the spirit shield advice.

    Warcry barbs do work in LLD, they aren't the strongest build but they are still quite effective. Just like a HLD warcry barb.

    This isn't just speculation, I have seen quite a few in action. You're right that a level 30 hammerdin would be a stronger build, but then again a level 30 necro beats pretty much anything. There's nothing wrong with making a fun build that isn't the best in pvp, and a LLD warcry barb can definately hold his own against many classes.

    If you're dueling with LLD101 people though, you're going to need a lot of mana since they don't allow mana potting. Most put flawless sapphires in their helm and you're going to need to look for a lot of life/mana scs.
     
  9. batuchka

    batuchka IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Why not have an eth 'Insight' Bill/Partizan (lvl 27) on switch for 600%++ mana regen and endless dmg with War Cry? Also surprise peeps by Leap Attacking with that weapon ala Korlic (Ancients) style hehe Maybe a 'Lore' barb helm with +3BO/+3 WC/+x Natural Resist would be a good helm for LLD WC Barb?
     
  10. batuchka

    batuchka IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Oops maybe go with eth partizan as its range 5 and if LLD lvl is @30+ then WW?

    Partizan (base) : 34-75
    Partizan (eth) : 51-112.5
    Insight (perfect roll) : 260ed/lvl 17 mediation aura/250% bonus to AR/+6 critical strike
    Final dmg on perfect eth Insight Partizan : 184 - [email protected] lvl 27
    Slow WW @ 10 base speed of Partizan but if Battle Scythe (-10) then perfect, ethereal Insight Battle Scythe dmg : 97-243
    Question : What is best delivery of an optional secondary physical attack after WC?
    Constraints : Never hitting Lwwp for 2-hander (-60)...at best -10
    Options : WW, Leap Attack,Concentrate,Berserk, Bash??
    Got me thinking hehe
     
  11. Zangeif

    Zangeif IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,552
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    WC followed by an attack just doesn't make sense for pvp. People have suggested it many times but it's not effective. If you're in range to cast a WC, but want your attack to be the main damage dealer, you might as well just ww them from the start and forget about the WC.
     
  12. batuchka

    batuchka IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Hmm was banking on the 'element of surprise' in case peeps expect a single approach in one's arsenal hehe.
     
  13. Zangeif

    Zangeif IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,552
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Both are close range blockable physical attacks. You really aren't suprising them with anything. Better to focus on 1 of the 2.
     
  14. Lyrs

    Lyrs IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    I have a lvl 30 Singer as you described and even without perfect gear/charms, it still can handle most of pubby.

    He has 2k+hp, and 800+ some mana after BO. It's best you find an +3 WC helm and make a Lore or if you're unlucky like me and have one with 3os, make a Radiance helm.
     
  15. NefariousNothing

    NefariousNothing IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Messages:
    159
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Why not P. Sapphire it..? Maybe I should look up the mods for Radiance, huh? ;p
     
  16. Aerath

    Aerath IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    2,006
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    There you go ;)
     

Share This Page