LLD warcry barb ???

jordy666

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LLD warcry barb ???

witht the comming of spirit, i though if u duel wield spirit swords u get:
70 fcr
110 fhr
200+ mana
some magic absorb
+4 skills

so if i get hellboosted i get 41 skill points:
skills:
lvl 6 BO
lvl 1 warcry
lvl 1 nat res
lvl 1 res
lvl 1 run
prereq's
rest in warcry synrgies

gear:
spirit sword 35 fcr
spirit sword 35 fcr
vipermagi 30
soj
soj
+1 barb/10 fcr/mana/life amu
frosties/magefist/bloodfist
boots :)
string of teh ears

lvl 9 warcry with some synrg does:
Damage: 168-192
Stun Length: 2.6 seconds
Mana Cost: 18

not too shabby ^^

is it worth trying or just another idea for jordy's duelers bin

-jordy :king:
 

Tridge

Diabloii.Net Member
thing with this build is, its extremely dependant on charms, to the point where if you don't have absolutely perfect items, it isn't worth doing.
you'll need to stock up on 15/12 charms (or close to that) in order to have enough mana to continuously cast the warcry, wich is relatively weak in and of itself, being that is is physical damage, and can be blocked.
another thing about this is that it is all too easily negated by stacked sol runes, or like.. ironpelt armor. the way it kills is with 7/8 fpc stunlock, much like a toned down version of smite. the way you've layed out gives it what, 10 pure physical damage a/p and before reduction? eh.. that gets killed by 1 sol rune, or some newby with duskdeep, although i really don't think it would be all that low of damage, it is a low damage skill at this level nonetheless.
it isn't totally worth discounting though, and if i were allowed to tell you where to go for more in-depth lld information, i would (but iirc i can't x_x ).
 

Herald of Doom

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decent lvl 30 chars do 5 times that dmg. You could pk pubbies with it I guess, but serious lvl 29ers wont be beaten by it. I'd say even my lvl 18 pala could win from that dude :p

HoD
 

NefariousNothing

Diabloii.Net Member
I tried something like this, and as was said -- if your charms are no good, chances are slim you'll be able to compete. But hey, it's a very fun build. I'd go with the frosties, seeing as you'll need all the mana you can get.
 

rikstaker

Diabloii.Net Member
jordy666 said:
lvl 9 warcry with some synrg does:
Damage: 168-192
Stun Length: 2.6 seconds
Mana Cost: 18

not too shabby ^^

is it worth trying or just another idea for jordy's duelers bin

-jordy :king:
:uhhuh:

After pvp penalty:
Damage:28-32.
If opponents use strings/rockfleece it would be 21-24.

Send to jordy's duelers bin.

Rik
 

Zangeif

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Warcry barbs do work at level 30. They aren't the strongest build but they are definately capable of killing some other LLD characters.

Use spirit sword and spirit shield, not 2 swords.

Use +2 warcries 10 fcr amulet, not +1 barb

If you can find a +2 warcries +3 warcry helm, you're looking good.

Wear bloodfists as more fcr will not accomplish anything.

Put 1 into Battle Command.

You will hit the 105 fcr breakpoint and your warcry will do 260-285

There's also a level 33 build that hits 200 fcr with dual wielding suicide branches.
 

Matt

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Zangeif said:
Use spirit sword and spirit shield, not 2 swords.
I think you'll be looking for a loooong time (as in, forever) for a 4 socket, non paladin shield for level 30.


I'd also say this build is unique, though less than effective. Your damage is simply too low compared to the competition at level 30. If you're looking to put spirit to good use on a caster, might I suggest a mid 30's hammerdin? Great build.

-Matt
 

Zangeif

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Doh... forget the spirit shield advice.

Warcry barbs do work in LLD, they aren't the strongest build but they are still quite effective. Just like a HLD warcry barb.

This isn't just speculation, I have seen quite a few in action. You're right that a level 30 hammerdin would be a stronger build, but then again a level 30 necro beats pretty much anything. There's nothing wrong with making a fun build that isn't the best in pvp, and a LLD warcry barb can definately hold his own against many classes.

If you're dueling with LLD101 people though, you're going to need a lot of mana since they don't allow mana potting. Most put flawless sapphires in their helm and you're going to need to look for a lot of life/mana scs.
 

batuchka

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Why not have an eth 'Insight' Bill/Partizan (lvl 27) on switch for 600%++ mana regen and endless dmg with War Cry? Also surprise peeps by Leap Attacking with that weapon ala Korlic (Ancients) style hehe Maybe a 'Lore' barb helm with +3BO/+3 WC/+x Natural Resist would be a good helm for LLD WC Barb?
 

batuchka

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Oops maybe go with eth partizan as its range 5 and if LLD lvl is @30+ then WW?

Partizan (base) : 34-75
Partizan (eth) : 51-112.5
Insight (perfect roll) : 260ed/lvl 17 mediation aura/250% bonus to AR/+6 critical strike
Final dmg on perfect eth Insight Partizan : 184 - [email protected] lvl 27
Slow WW @ 10 base speed of Partizan but if Battle Scythe (-10) then perfect, ethereal Insight Battle Scythe dmg : 97-243
Question : What is best delivery of an optional secondary physical attack after WC?
Constraints : Never hitting Lwwp for 2-hander (-60)...at best -10
Options : WW, Leap Attack,Concentrate,Berserk, Bash??
Got me thinking hehe
 

Zangeif

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WC followed by an attack just doesn't make sense for pvp. People have suggested it many times but it's not effective. If you're in range to cast a WC, but want your attack to be the main damage dealer, you might as well just ww them from the start and forget about the WC.
 

batuchka

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Hmm was banking on the 'element of surprise' in case peeps expect a single approach in one's arsenal hehe.
 

Zangeif

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Both are close range blockable physical attacks. You really aren't suprising them with anything. Better to focus on 1 of the 2.
 

Lyrs

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I have a lvl 30 Singer as you described and even without perfect gear/charms, it still can handle most of pubby.

He has 2k+hp, and 800+ some mana after BO. It's best you find an +3 WC helm and make a Lore or if you're unlucky like me and have one with 3os, make a Radiance helm.
 

NefariousNothing

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Lyrs said:
It's best you find an +3 WC helm and make a Lore or if you're unlucky like me and have one with 3os, make a Radiance helm.
Why not P. Sapphire it..? Maybe I should look up the mods for Radiance, huh? ;p
 

Aerath

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+75% Enhanced Defense
+30 Defense Vs. Missile
+10 To Energy
+10 To Vitality
15% Damage Goes To Mana
Magic Damage Reduced By 3
+33 To Mana
Damage Reduced By 7
+5 To Light Radius
There you go ;)
 
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