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LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

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  1. donaldtrump

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    LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    Hey guys,

    looking for advice here...

    what bow should i use as a secondary for my low level dueler level 9 assassin.


    Composite Bow 4 to 8 (6 Avg) 25 35 4 [-10]
    Ama, B, D - Very Fast
    Asn, N, P, S - Fast 12

    Short Battle Bow 5 to 11 (8 Avg) 30 40 5 [0]
    Ama, Asn, B, D, P, S - Fast
    N - Normal 18

    Long Battle Bow 3 to 18 (10.5 Avg) 40 50 6 [10]
    Ama, B, D - Fast
    Asn, N, P, S - Normal 23

    Short War Bow 6 to 14 (10 Avg) 35 55 5 [0]
    Ama, Asn, B, D, P, S - Fast
    N - Normal 27


    comp bow is 10 speed over... but only has 4 sockets.

    other 2 bows are 0..

    and the 6 socket is +10 over speed... but it has 6 sockets.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    Go with the Long Battle Bow and sock it with 2 +10% IAS jewels to catch up with the speed and the bow will be as fast as comp, have as many empty sockets but have slightly more damage..

    Im just curious but how are you planning to make your Bowassin? never seen one before :D
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    The only amount of ias available on jewels is 15 and lvl req of such jewels is 31 iirc. Please check facts before posting advice, thanks :)



     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    i've never found a bow or any other ranged weapon necessary on my lvl 9 ts sin.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    IS a throwing weapon a possibility?
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    my assassin is also a tiger strike crawling dead man... but i don't see anything else practical to put on my secondary, and figured i would try to get an extra kill or 2 when people run back to town. I mainly do public duels so i find a lot of people are running away when they realize how dead they are. I thought i would do some calculations for you guys, and then take your advice, as i was very brief on the initial explanation.

    a throwing weapon is an option, but i need one that will have the stopping power of a bow with 4 sockets +..

    i have 30% ias on my deaths gloves, and 2 to BOS giving me more ias.
    I tested out a stock composite bow and it was plenty fast.. but im not sure if the 4 sockets will have the same sort of stopping power.

    i did some calculations
    with the composite bow i can hit 9 fpa... 2.7 attacks per second

    4 jewels around 9 max dmg on a base dmg of around 4 to 8

    thats 4 - 44 dmg 2.7 times per second
    averaging 24 dmg 2.7 times a second
    64.8 dmg per second

    or:

    a short battle bow:

    10 fpa 2.5 attacks per second

    5 max dmg jewels averaging 9 max dmng on the higher base dmg of around 5 to 11

    thats 5 - 56 dmg 2.5 times a second
    averaging 30.5 dmg 2.5 times a second
    76.25 a second



    that sounds good on paper... but in practicality... lol.. i don't know if dmg is the only real important part as ill be trying to pick off these guys when they try to run back into town.

    and if i did hit them, would the 64.8 average on the comp bow really have the stopping power? Anyway, ill probably be going with a superior short battle bow with 5 sockets... I don't have confidence in a throwing weapon at this level being able to provide that sort of damage, but if you think they can prove me wrong.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    So do you guys think i should go with the 5 socket superior short war bow? or try to get a throwing weapon setup? i guess i could always have 3 sockets in the shield and 1 in the throwing weapon....
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    Is it an option to try jewels of envy in the bow for runners? If they're pub games they're probably not using Deaths gloves to nerf the poison damage.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    poison is a slow drain so wouldn't that be more effective in pre fight then post fight?

    if not please explain, because i honestly never really played around with poison damage before.

    i do agree that many people in the pubs are probably not using deaths goloves though.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    As you say it would be useful prefight to if you can hit them early. Also jewels of envy are only over 2 secs so not too long duration.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    I think you're best bet may be to use a rare javelin along with a 3 socket large shield. That would allow 4-6 sockets and better average throwing damage.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    Agreed.
    Imbue 3 eth javelins (one in each difficulty) you're bound to get one with replenish. If you're sure you won't need the block... the 3 socket shield would do it for ya. If you don't feel like burning the maxers, use the same shield from your primary.

    (If for some miraculous reason, you meet the req for an eth throwing spear, use that)


     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    all unnecessary, imo. if they run, they're not worth beating. if you cant kill pubs by releasing a 1k damage ts, you're not worth it.

    i understand the frustration of not killing someone who runs, dont get me wrong, but eventually you'll tire of it and realize that only people at your level are worth dueling.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    I would disagree with Crawling. I think there is some value in having a throwing weapon on switch. A pesky sorc with tele can be difficult to drop if they play keep away, or a charger as well. The Javs would allow enough damage I think to pick people off as they go back to town.
     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    if you stick to your level tier (9) teleport isn't really a concern though.



     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    Much of the fun in my opinion, of the the LvL 9 TS assassin is to see how high of level you can kill.

    Especially if you're on ladder right now, there is very little in the ways of competitive LLD. I built mine just to kick around in games and try to kill medium level characters.

    I think I may adopt the spear idea, because I do find that many higher level characters run back to town once they realize they are getting spanked.



     
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    Re: LLD - Level 9 assassin *BOW

    there are better builds to use for higher level pking. i assumed you were talking about lld. killing higher level characters is hardly lld.
     

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