LLD kicker?

[jesterlolz]

LLD kicker?

Does anybody know stats/skills for a LLD kicker, and at what lvl they preform best at. Any help would be much appreciated, as I'm just starting LLD now, since theres so much happening lately about it :grin: .

 

[crawlingdeadman]

what level are you thinking about? i have an 18 kicker and a 30 they're both fun as hell.

 

[jesterlolz]

I'm thinking level 18 (or possibly level 9). I want to make a kicker primarily cuz of my old HLD kicker, who was indeed, fun as hell (she just had a lot of trouble killing melee).

 

[crawlingdeadman]

for 18 i use:
well actually i have her posted here

pruby sig helm
pruby twitch
jeweled crushflange
sig gloves
fhr/life belt
sig boots
either swordback or pelta luna.
angelics rings/ammy

2x 1shadow claws on switch

 

[jesterlolz]

Awesome, and what is this skill distribution. I would guess lvl 17 dtalon - 1 pt Shadow Master and prereqs, rest into fade?

EDIT: Also, in what cases would a pelta lunata be better. It appears as though the swordback beats it in every way. Is it better for dueling melee characters, or casters. Thanks for the feedback :grin: .

 

[crawlingdeadman]

18 dtalon! it gets you your 4th kick.
no shadow
i'm going from the top of my head
i think it was 1bos with two +1 claw prebuff for 3bos that coupled with the ias from twitch and sigs gets you the good kick speed (sorry if this is off it's been a while, i'll post my actual skill placement but it'll be screwed up anyway since i hell rushed and screwed around with some other skills). no fade you kick too slow.

i think my skills were thus before my 'extra' from hell rushing:
18talon
1bos
1claw mastery
1phsychic hammer
rest into cos (personal prefrence really)

if you plan on a lot of vs casters maybe a point into claw block and get some claws (i dont know really there's not very many casters at 18 so i didnt bother). aslo some people like having tiger strike as an option, but i dont like having to charge up. i've met a couple kickers at this lvl try to do this but i wind up beating them by the time they've charged and kicked a few times. plain outright kicking is faster.

i usually use pelta vs zealots. i'm pretty sure your faster blocking rate is more helpful vs the ow on swordback. neither one is going to help much vs a well equipped one but i seem to get closer to killing them when i use pelta.

 

[SlickSam]

Hey, I'm building your kicksin atm, but I was wondering if I should invest points into dex to get a decent block, or should I get 75 block, or just dump it all into vit? I plan on gettin all my str from items/charms so I should have a fair bit of stats to throw in. Also, what kinda charms whould I benefit from having? Thanks for any help.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

yes, enough dex for max block. dont get str from charms put it in with stats and use 15 life small charms.

i think 5 str large charms are available at 18. say you use two of those that's 10 str over 4 stash spots. that equates to 30 life in stats. the same 4 spaces in the stash could be filled with 4x 15 life small charms which is 60 life.

 

[SlickSam]

Yea, right now im using x2 2str sc and one lc 5str +1 mx dmg charm. I plan on switching out the x2 2str sc's once I get another 5str lc (since it only makes sense to get the most out of your invi space). Is running through nm the best place to get 15life sc's? And one last question for this post. Would a 10Ed/14 max dmg jewel (lvl18 req) be a good candidate for socketing crushflange? Thanks

 

[jesterlolz]

If I were you, I wouldn't build those str lcs into your build. I would try finding the life scs, or resist scs. Later you will probably regret it (however this is just from my hld experience, I'm not pretending to know anything about lld.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

max damage doesnt work with kicks. ed% does but it's not that helpful the best thing to socket into the crushflange is a str/dex/life jewel possibly with damage to mana.

DONT BUILD AROUND STR FROM CHARMS. you'll regret it later.

 

[SlickSam]

Well, the 4x 15 life sc's would give me 60 life. I'd only be gaining like 15 life or something like that by having str charms, so I guess it's better to put hard points into str.

 

[jakotaco]

max damage doesnt work with kicks. ed% does but it's not that helpful the best thing to socket into the crushflange is a str/dex/life jewel possibly with damage to mana.

Hmm, nice rare jewels are hard to find. What do you think about a p.amethyst for +150 AR? Or would that be an overkill as Dtalon already has pretty good AR bonus?

(speculating here, crawlingdeadman is the one of us who has made LLD kicksins)

 

[crawlingdeadman]

i dont know. as you said kicks have a ton of ar already. particularly if you're using sig helm and angelics. ame is better than nothing, but i'd still rather use a stat jewel even if it's only a little dex.

 

[jakotaco]

i dont know. as you said kicks have a ton of ar already. particularly if you're using sig helm and angelics. ame is better than nothing, but i'd still rather use a stat jewel even if it's only a little dex.

Guess you're right about that, checked your screenie and saw you had over 5k AR with your lvl 18 kicksin. Think that should be enough for most situations.

*hides Military pick +903 AR in closet*

 

[inanefedaykin]

If you don't have 40 inventory slots worth of lifer charms right now then you may as well build around str/dex charms and rebuild later.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

blah, i say build w/o the charms and then add them since they'll add damage. then you can slowly replace w/ lifers and not need to remake... idk though you'd be really low on life with more damage then you'd slowly get more life but wind up doing less.