lighting fury - useless in 1.10?

[hmlyim]

lighting fury - useless in 1.10?

I haven't play amazon since 1.09. I can still remember the good old days when I kill all cows with lighting fury in a 2 mins with other 7 players.

I build my zon again in 1.10 with max lighting fury but the build cannot kill cow as fast as I did in 1.09. In fact, it kills very slowly. Is lighting fury no good anymore in 1.10?

Also, 1 point adding to the LF skill only give a few increase in damage (the figure when you press C). Is it worth it to invest skill point in lighting fury?

Thx.

 

[MoonUnit]

In order for lf to be effective, you need to put points into its synergies, charged strike, lightning bolt and lightning strike and power strike.

 

[aZNx05J3]

Yeah Synergies are necessary and +Skills boost damage by quite a bit. When I had a 3k+ LF, I could solo Cow Games really quickly; LF is definitely still usefull.

 

[hmlyim]

Yeah Synergies are necessary and +Skills boost damage by quite a bit. When I had a 3k+ LF, I could solo Cow Games really quickly; LF is definitely still usefull.

Well...this synergy thing I see +1% per level. With 4 skill to max synergy, you only get 20% increase of damage per skill. It means 80% damage increass in total for LF as only HARD POINT counted. Is it worth it to invest heavily on synergy? What about other usually skills like: critical strike, valkyrie?

 

[Tarantella]

Well...this synergy thing I see +1% per level. With 4 skill to max synergy, you only get 20% increase of damage per skill. It means 80% damage increass in total for LF as only HARD POINT counted. Is it worth it to invest heavily on synergy? What about other usually skills like: critical strike, valkyrie?

As far as I inderstand Critical strike gives odds to do double damage on the physical damage of the javelin strike and subsequent hits by it when it pierces through to another target.It also helps the valkyrie to do more damage.

Valkyrie is a mobile shield with limited damage dealing capabilities at low level but very effective at higher level for tanking and mopping up stragglers.

Decoy is good for crowd control, a maxed decoy capable of withstanding many blows from an enraged cow and a good safety shield when the game lags.


Extra damage could also be got from jewels and charms rather than blowing all those skill points.

 

[Hrus]

You don't need synergies to have effective LF, however CS is the best bosskiller and you can find it nice for killing single cows. And for the CS synergies adds lot of damage.
Cows in 1.10 have much more life, all character have troubles to kill them quickly. LF zon is still the best cow killer (some builds are on the same kill-speed too...)
The damage of LF is increased quite a lot by +skills, it starts to shine around lvl 35, also you can equip items with -% lightning resistance or equip your merc with that conviction polearm (Infinity).

EDIT: And critical strike doesn't help much, your lightning damage is far higher than physical, so if the critical strike applies, you won't notice any difference (maybe leeching more mana)

 

[BananaPancakes]

you're not wasting points when you place them into charged strike or lighting strike. they are syenergies for the lightnin fury and will have their own uses.

 

[robyextreme]

good guide

 

[Jek]

Eh. You just need level 20 LF, Razortail and 7 some pierce to butcher cows, heh.

 

[Superhal]

I haven't play amazon since 1.09. I can still remember the good old days when I kill all cows with lighting fury in a 2 mins with other 7 players.

I build my zon again in 1.10 with max lighting fury but the build cannot kill cow as fast as I did in 1.09. In fact, it kills very slowly. Is lighting fury no good anymore in 1.10?

Also, 1 point adding to the LF skill only give a few increase in damage (the figure when you press C). Is it worth it to invest skill point in lighting fury?

Thx.

unsynergized LF is still useful for 1 player games.

 

[Darknicrofia]

what purpose are you trying to use it for, pvm or pvp? in pvm it is still extremely effective, but in pvp, if the opponet is competent in any sort of way, they'll just use sorb and your lighting atks will do nothing at all, but most pubs dont have sorb gear, so lighting zons still do okay in pvp

 

[sasja]

I agree, the synergies are really weak. However, maxed ChS is still worth it imho - the 20% is nice and ChS will help you deal with bosses, and there really aren't better places to put them. Valk is pretty useless in cows (use her for levelling, though, if you want), but Pierce and Evade are of course important as always.

The short of the long is, you'll never slaughter cows like you did in 1.09 (but that was completely out of hand and unbalanced imho). However, one thing can make it a whole lot faster: -lightning resistance! New items can help you lower the cows lightning resistance, most notably the Griffon's Eye, of course, which can add 20% to your total damage, and the lightning unique jewels which can add 10%. An Infinity weapon for merc (if he can stay alive) should also work wonders. Have fun at the slaughter house

 

[Hrus]

I agree, the synergies are really weak. However, maxed ChS is still worth it imho - the 20% is nice and ChS will help you deal with bosses, and there really aren't better places to put them. Valk is pretty useless in cows (use her for levelling, though, if you want), but Pierce and Evade are of course important as always.

The short of the long is, you'll never slaughter cows like you did in 1.09 (but that was completely out of hand and unbalanced imho). However, one thing can make it a whole lot faster: -lightning resistance! New items can help you lower the cows lightning resistance, most notably the Griffon's Eye, of course, which can add 20% to your total damage, and the lightning unique jewels which can add 10%. An Infinity weapon for merc (if he can stay alive) should also work wonders. Have fun at the slaughter house

I agree and want to add one thing:
Cows have natural 50% lightning resistance in hell, so any item with -% enemy lightning resistance will count twice for final damage.
The -20% Griffon's Eye will up your real lightning damage against cows by 40%!

EDIT: "Valk is pretty useless in cows"
Valk is nice for lightning immune cow bosses (every lightning enchanted boss is lightning immune in hell).
She is nice when you are "caught" by freezing aura boss or against extra fast bosspacks.

 

[HCTwinJava]

- dedicated, best-played LF javazons are still the best cow killers. i have no doubt.

- to be such a javazon, you'll need to put far more than 24-25 skill pts in your javelin skill tree. Best, if you can max 3 lightening skills (LF included) and also have some nice +skills from your gear.


- valk is not useless in the cow level. in fact, a high-level valk is *extremely* helpful, if you want to kill cows at a ligtening speed and also want to do that without giving any cow boss a slight chance to wipe you out.

(ofc, if you don't mind how fast to kill cows, or if you just enjoy playing with a nice party together in the cow level, then valk's helpfulness is not obvious.)


- in the cow level, valk is NOT JUST a meat shield. she has many more uses. She's really an amazingly powerful Valkyrie to your LF javazon in the cow lvl (you know the dictionary meaning of valk?).


(my javazons don't cow wihtout a valk. A merc is never needed there, unless my whole purpose of cowing is merc leveling. Without a valk, my javazons would never be able to risk-free herd 100+ cows in Hell and then open fire to reduce them to just some stranglers in a blink)

 

[sasja]

EDIT: "Valk is pretty useless in cows"
Valk is nice for lightning immune cow bosses (every lightning enchanted boss is lightning immune in hell).
She is nice when you are "caught" by freezing aura boss or against extra fast bosspacks.

Ok, true - hence the "pretty" ;-p

Herding is what will let you kill cows at lightening speed - and a valk really screws up your herding. Only take her out for special occasions, like Hrus says, or if you're using a conviction merc anyway, making herding pretty near impossible.

 

[xNightblade]

nah, i find the valk helps herd the cows. they all gather around her and she's taking on like 40 of them at once, one LF and the cows all die...