Liberator questions.

Liberator questions.

I want to ask about liberators. The guide posted is a bit outdated, and dosn't list some possible gear. I still want to use lovelygod's/lovelyhahagod's libberator skillset, but I'm still not sure about the gear. I would like to have 125 fcr, and hit a few other bps... but I still cannot figure the optimal set.
Skills would be:
Max hammers
max conc
max charge
max vigour
16 blessed aim
1 holy shield

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
MONKEYMONKEYMONKEY said:
I want to ask about liberators. The guide posted is a bit outdated, and dosn't list some possible gear. I still want to use lovelygod's/lovelyhahagod's libberator skillset, but I'm still not sure about the gear. I would like to have 125 fcr, and hit a few other bps... but I still cannot figure the optimal set.
Skills would be:
Max hammers
max conc
max charge
max vigour
16 blessed aim
1 holy shield

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
you cannot hit 125 fcr if you are using grief. at most you do 75
and you need to use grief else u better go for pure hammerdin...
 

Thoridian

Diabloii.Net Member
You can hit 125fcr lol...

35shield
20gloves
20belt
20rings
20circ
10+ amu

= 125fcr...

Ur losing the %DS from highlords though
 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
Thoridian said:
You can hit 125fcr lol...

35shield
20gloves
20belt
20rings
20circ
10+ amu

= 125fcr...

Ur losing the %DS from highlords though
kk my bad dint think about more flexible gear choices , but yes lost dr means you will have alot of problems against druids, barbs, and maybe bowazons.
also if im not wrong using spirit to smite is not a good idea (dmg is too low ), not to mention he really need alot of stacked res because he will lose from not using wizzy or hoto, and since he will have to use 9 pcombats he has only slots for 10 20life/res scs. so basically he has to duel with 75 fcr in many duels ,pubs especially.
 

moonlike

Banned
mainaman said:
kk my bad dint think about more flexible gear choices , but yes lost dr means you will have alot of problems against druids, barbs, and maybe bowazons.
also if im not wrong using spirit to smite is not a good idea (dmg is too low ), not to mention he really need alot of stacked res because he will lose from not using wizzy or hoto, and since he will have to use 9 pcombats he has only slots for 10 20life/res scs. so basically he has to duel with 75 fcr in many duels ,pubs especially.
smite dmg from paladin shield spirit isn't bad o0
 

Moritz

Diabloii.Net Member
im not an experianced libby player, but a Forti weapon in a cadeus with possibly 3bh and/or conc should be a good comprimise between caster and charge weapon. isnt it?
 

Noite Escura

Diabloii.Net Member
AFAIK an elite Paladin Shield will have the best damage in the game, and it will be the same whether it is unique, rare or has a Runeword or even PGems socketed in.
 
Moritz said:
sacred targe spirit will have the same smite dmg as e.g. a sacred targe exile ...

25%fcr fort
20 fcr gloves
20 fcr belt
20 fcr circlet
35 fcr spirit sacred rondache
10 ring
__

130 fcr with highlords

OR, ammy and fcr rings and use stormshield for dr when you need it.

OR - 08 valk

ORRR!!! use 75 fcr because you don't need 125 anyway.


And why are you guys discussing smite damage anyway? This is a Liberator, not a Vanquisher or some wannabe Judicator.
 
I'm going to use a weopon switch... I was thinking hoto on one and cta on the other... then switch out grief once I bo'd.



Edit: Oh, and ty wolven... I don't know why I would use smite.
 
LesClaypool said:
LOL.

Owned.
Rotfl...

Ot: *points sniper at LesClaypool*


Not Ot: I was thinking... and I got this setup... you guys rate it.

wpn 1: hoto
shield 1: spirit
wpn 2: cta/grief (once I'm done bo'ing)
shield 2: spirit
Coa berber
Enigma
Dungos
Bloodfist
Treks
Ravenraven highlords



75 fcr, 50 dr, 120 fhr

I'd like more fcr... but meh. Maybe something on switch... but whatever.
 
mainaman said:
kk my bad dint think about more flexible gear choices , but yes lost dr means you will have alot of problems against druids, barbs, and maybe bowazons.
also if im not wrong using spirit to smite is not a good idea (dmg is too low ), not to mention he really need alot of stacked res because he will lose from not using wizzy or hoto, and since he will have to use 9 pcombats he has only slots for 10 20life/res scs. so basically he has to duel with 75 fcr in many duels ,pubs especially.
Sorry, but I just read this.... Wtf are you talking about?

Pcombs arn't needed.. I'm still able to 9k+ hammers. Why am I smiting? If I'm close enough to use smite... hammer would be far better? And if I need the res I always have a weopon switch.
 

mythos

Diabloii.Net Member
don't use a switch. pre-buffing bo gets boring really fast. and charging anybody with your hoto by mistake = death. and all it takes is a little bit of lag for that to happen.
75fcr is enough. Grief is the weapon of choice. You can always keep a fcr ring/hoto in stash for 125fcr v's pure hdin's.
my pub set up is this

Coa-berber
Highlords
Grief
Spirit -35fcr, 45res sacred rondache
Trang glove
Spider
Ravenfrost
BK
Tri res boots with 10fhr
torch/anni
5pcomb
rest of inventory is filled with life/res sc's with an emphasis on life/lite res or cold res
switch cta/spirit
 
mythos said:
don't use a switch. pre-buffing bo gets boring really fast. and charging anybody with your hoto by mistake = death. and all it takes is a little bit of lag for that to happen.
75fcr is enough. Grief is the weapon of choice. You can always keep a fcr ring/hoto in stash for 125fcr v's pure hdin's.
my pub set up is this

Coa-berber
Highlords
Grief
Spirit -35fcr, 45res sacred rondache
Trang glove
Spider
Ravenfrost
BK
Tri res boots with 10fhr
torch/anni
5pcomb
rest of inventory is filled with life/res sc's with an emphasis on life/lite res or cold res
switch cta/spirit

Yeah, I just found myself doubting I could switch weopons effectively. Btw, grief pb or zerker? Also, what about ar. Will I have a decent amount of ar for this setup to work?
 

mythos

Diabloii.Net Member
Well, when you think about ar, you need to consider who you will be charging. I have about 7k ar and don't carry any charms to boost it. Thats enough to hit most casters, ie sorc's, boner, zon's, windy. You won't be hitting high def barb's/exile smiters with 7k ar. But then charging a pure smiter is not a good idea. that's why you have hammers!

I started out with a zerk, and have been trying a pb lately. The pb will get you to 7frame smite (yes i do smite some characters to finish them off, this is why grief is your best choice), whereas the zerk will only go to 8 frames. I think I'll be switching back to the zerk for its superior range. you should try both and see which you like better.

Skill-wise i went

Max hammer and its synergies
Max concentration
15 charge
1 medi
1 salvation - haven't need this yet tho
1 holy shield

You could try less in charge and put some points in lite res for the passive bonus. If I ever rebuild I may do that, just to see if my charge effectiveness is reduced.
I'm still pretty new to the build myself. The learning curve isn't too bad. Plus it helps that most pub duelers are pretty bad to begin with.
 
mythos said:
Well, when you think about ar, you need to consider who you will be charging. I have about 7k ar and don't carry any charms to boost it. Thats enough to hit most casters, ie sorc's, boner, zon's, windy. You won't be hitting high def barb's/exile smiters with 7k ar. But then charging a pure smiter is not a good idea. that's why you have hammers!

I started out with a zerk, and have been trying a pb lately. The pb will get you to 7frame smite (yes i do smite some characters to finish them off, this is why grief is your best choice), whereas the zerk will only go to 8 frames. I think I'll be switching back to the zerk for its superior range. you should try both and see which you like better.

Skill-wise i went

Max hammer and its synergies
Max concentration
15 charge
1 medi
1 salvation - haven't need this yet tho
1 holy shield

You could try less in charge and put some points in lite res for the passive bonus. If I ever rebuild I may do that, just to see if my charge effectiveness is reduced.
I'm still pretty new to the build myself. The learning curve isn't too bad. Plus it helps that most pub duelers are pretty bad to begin with.
Yeah, well my gear setup atm is CRAP. It's just random items that allow me to use other items, at the time being. But, I will get better items...

Anyways, libbys are pretty fun to play.

*hammer run hammer run hammer run watch them chase you, charge them, watch them get hit into the hammers*
 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
MONKEYMONKEYMONKEY said:
Sorry, but I just read this.... Wtf are you talking about?

Pcombs arn't needed.. I'm still able to 9k+ hammers. Why am I smiting? If I'm close enough to use smite... hammer would be far better? And if I need the res I always have a weopon switch.
oops my bad, i somehow think its smite/hammer hybrid while its not..
yes you dont need 9 pcombats..
 

Gotcha

Diabloii.Net Member
My build is still in the works but for the AR for charge just get a demonlimb and prebuff before the duel. Sorta like a barb does.
 
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