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LF pierce

Discussion in 'Amazon' started by nthBULL, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. nthBULL

    nthBULL IncGamers Member

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    LF pierce

    I'm building a LF javazon at the moment and im just wondering if razortail (im assuming the 33 is chance to pierce) + some points in the skill will guarantee pierce EVERY hit? Or is there a cap?
     
  2. Eilo Rytyj

    Eilo Rytyj IncGamers Member

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    If it adds to 100%, yes, all of your javelins will pierce. Razortail is 33%, so you'd need your Pierce skill to be at level 9 (71%) to get to 100%. Try to invest only as much points as you need without wasting any, and always factor in how many +skills from items that you have.
     
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    KremBanan IncGamers Member

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    You would ofc only need 69% in Pierceskill..
     
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    rynke IncGamers Member

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    the cap is at 95%
     
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    Baranor IncGamers Member

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    ... which means that your chance to pierce once is 95%, twice = 95% * 95%, etc, which means your chance to pierce that 5th row of cows/monsters/bananapeels = 95% * 95% * 95% * 95% * 95%= 77.something%

    Raizortail >>>> T-Gods for large packs, as each pierce usually doubles up the damage pretty darn well.
     
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    Eilo Rytyj IncGamers Member

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    In that case, you'd only need a slvl 7 Pierce (63%) after +skills if using Razortail, for most efficient effect.
     
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    PhatTrumpet IncGamers Member

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    The only "cap" on Pierce (and DS, CS, CB, and OW for that matter) is 100% because getting any more than 100% does nothing for you.
     
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    it's 95%..
     
  9. bruticus

    bruticus IncGamers Member

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    this is right .. even 100% chance to pierce will only actually pierce 95% of the time. for example, with a buriza, you'll see that not every single bolt pierces (the vast majority do though, and that's all that really matters i guess).
     
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    Coudn't it be that you pierce 100% of the time, but you hit 95% of the time since that is the cap on hiting monsters, so the 5% not piercing of the burri is caused by the fact that the bolt misses the monster?
     
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    thanks for the help guys

    i wouldnt really know, but isnt LF a magic skill, which can hit all the time?
     
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    smeer IncGamers Member

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    Yeb, but that's not what I meant. The piercing isn't done by the lighnting, but only by the phisical javalin. And I always thought piercing could be 100%. The fact that a missile doesn't pierce is caused by the fact that the missile misses the monster.
    However maybe I don't remember correctly
     
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    I'd also like some evidence of this 95% thing, and referencing that outdated (last updated in 2002) Amazon FAQ doesn't count:
    I'd attribute this to the fact that there's always a 5% of missing rather than there being some theoretical cap on Pierce.

    Where's RTB when you need him...
     
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    Pierce isn't capped. Chance to hit is, for most attacks. That's where the myth that pierce is capped at 95% came from.
     

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