LF pierce

nthBULL

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LF pierce

I'm building a LF javazon at the moment and im just wondering if razortail (im assuming the 33 is chance to pierce) + some points in the skill will guarantee pierce EVERY hit? Or is there a cap?
 

Eilo Rytyj

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If it adds to 100%, yes, all of your javelins will pierce. Razortail is 33%, so you'd need your Pierce skill to be at level 9 (71%) to get to 100%. Try to invest only as much points as you need without wasting any, and always factor in how many +skills from items that you have.
 

Baranor

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... which means that your chance to pierce once is 95%, twice = 95% * 95%, etc, which means your chance to pierce that 5th row of cows/monsters/bananapeels = 95% * 95% * 95% * 95% * 95%= 77.something%

Raizortail >>>> T-Gods for large packs, as each pierce usually doubles up the damage pretty darn well.
 

rynke

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PhatTrumpet said:
The only "cap" on Pierce (and DS, CS, CB, and OW for that matter) is 100% because getting any more than 100% does nothing for you.
it's 95%..
 

bruticus

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rynke said:
it's 95%..
this is right .. even 100% chance to pierce will only actually pierce 95% of the time. for example, with a buriza, you'll see that not every single bolt pierces (the vast majority do though, and that's all that really matters i guess).
 

smeer

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bruticus said:
this is right .. even 100% chance to pierce will only actually pierce 95% of the time. for example, with a buriza, you'll see that not every single bolt pierces (the vast majority do though, and that's all that really matters i guess).
Coudn't it be that you pierce 100% of the time, but you hit 95% of the time since that is the cap on hiting monsters, so the 5% not piercing of the burri is caused by the fact that the bolt misses the monster?
 

nthBULL

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thanks for the help guys

Coudn't it be that you pierce 100% of the time, but you hit 95% of the time since that is the cap on hiting monsters, so the 5% not piercing of the burri is caused by the fact that the bolt misses the monster?
i wouldnt really know, but isnt LF a magic skill, which can hit all the time?
 

smeer

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nthBULL said:
thanks for the help guys



i wouldnt really know, but isnt LF a magic skill, which can hit all the time?
Yeb, but that's not what I meant. The piercing isn't done by the lighnting, but only by the phisical javalin. And I always thought piercing could be 100%. The fact that a missile doesn't pierce is caused by the fact that the missile misses the monster.
However maybe I don't remember correctly
 

PhatTrumpet

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I'd also like some evidence of this 95% thing, and referencing that outdated (last updated in 2002) Amazon FAQ doesn't count:
Amazon FAQ said:
There is a pure speculative conclusion that pierce therefore has a certain cap-value, and this value would then be 95%...
I'd attribute this to the fact that there's always a 5% of missing rather than there being some theoretical cap on Pierce.

Where's RTB when you need him...
 

RTB

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Pierce isn't capped. Chance to hit is, for most attacks. That's where the myth that pierce is capped at 95% came from.
 
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