Level in pub w TPPK out there?

MalVeauX

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Level in pub w TPPK out there?

Hello all

I've been out of it for a long time. I recently came back to HC Ladder East as I always did have a good time making wacky builds and just making characters overall. So the first thing I started to do, was to create a character into mid-levels to generate gold, so I could literally just shop for decent items in nightmare in order to build a semi-decent magic finding character.

Well, I leveled up an assasin with Fade and Lightning traps to level 71. I was doing pub Baal runs to that level. I worked out her layout and had it set, a few more levels and I would be ready to begin magic finding with her (mainly super uniques in act5). One last faithful baal run, a horde of magic arrows are around me and I hear the hostile noise. I blocked quite a few, took a few to the chest, and hit all my potions for help... but it wasn't enough, one last arrow connected and I saw the critical animaton. I was down for the count. So I layed there, dead, as the amazon just ran about (everyone else uses chicken I assume as they all quit instantly). I for one dispise cheats and just play. So I was "TPPK'd" for the first time.

So now I'm starting anew. This time going the route of a lightnin amazon, as she doesn't really need gear at all to kill. And I'm doing fine with really crappy "X of whale" gear I bought from NM act1 (haha). She's fun and she murders all of nightmare. Now I'm simply leveling her up (currently lvl 63) and leveling up her merc. However, I've stoped with the public baal runs or any other popular public runs for that matter. Now, I simply join games and I do not party.. I solo mostly. It's slow as hell to level, compared to insane runs, but I'm alive.

So I am simply asking, how many other people are out there and avoid public games and missing out on great multiplayer experience in a game you purchased, because of silly children with TPPK hacks? I keep all my characters away from places I see frequent TPPKs and I'm still alive and running. But it really cuts into the gaming experience. How else can one avoid these hackers and botters? It's extremely annoying, but I enjoy the game. So I'm doomed to just solo mostly. Normal mode is fairly safe as there aren't many TPPKs there, unless you see the notably high level amazon or necro. But in nightmare and beyond, every single game has a TPPK user in it as everyone knows them by name, or you simply see the death text and see chicken users quit with quickness.

So am I the only one who is running around in NM baal run games in the Ancients Way and Crystaline Chambers slowly leveling and feverishly watching for red text on the waypoint?
 

cougar

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Naw, your not the only one. Seems once you reach nightmare baal, you can rest assured there's gonna be someone trying something on almost every run. It's really kind of ruining the game for me cause i absolutely hate playing paranoid of other players. It'd be nice to be able to trust people on pubbies, but it looks like that can no longer be the case. As everyone i see i'm wondering if they're gonna try and tppk me or not. And i'm naturally a trustworthy guy, so it's driving me nuts not being able to take anyone's tp, or run with em close. And my trustworthiness has got me killed a couple times.... it sucks really. It's taking away the multiplayer aspect of it imo.

Only thing you can really do is just try and keep your distance from anyone suspicious, and if you see anything flying your way, exit the game asap. That's the only thing i can tell ya. People in pubbies tell ya even chicken doesn't save you all the time. As i saw one dood go down to it, his only message was "wtf, i have chicken" then he left.
 

Cleglaw_Himself

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Just have to get in runs that don't have necros as they are the worst tppker due to the insane dmg bone spirits can get to. (The only time I've been tppked was my 84 hammerdin - only took 2 bone spirits).

Make sure you have lots of full rejuvs at all times in your belt.

Any sign of suspicious characters, simply exit and find a new run or do not leave town until the char leaves. And, if you do find yourself in runs with a necro or zon, any sign of bonespirits or guided arrows, either leave or move away very fast. And keep your distance at all times from the suspicious character.

Sometimes they work in teams to get you. e.g. I was in an Act1 nm game killing andy solo when a 64 necro and a 59 pally joined at the same time. Pally says "Let's kill andy, cats 2 wp up". I didn't answer as I had already killed andy.
They realized this and both left together.
 

MalVeauX

Diabloii.Net Member
Cleglaw_Himself said:
Just have to get in runs that don't have necros as they are the worst tppker due to the insane dmg bone spirits can get to. (The only time I've been tppked was my 84 hammerdin - only took 2 bone spirits).

Make sure you have lots of full rejuvs at all times in your belt.

Any sign of suspicious characters, simply exit and find a new run or do not leave town until the char leaves. And, if you do find yourself in runs with a necro or zon, any sign of bonespirits or guided arrows, either leave or move away very fast. And keep your distance at all times from the suspicious character.

Sometimes they work in teams to get you. e.g. I was in an Act1 nm game killing andy solo when a 64 necro and a 59 pally joined at the same time. Pally says "Let's kill andy, cats 2 wp up". I didn't answer as I had already killed andy.
They realized this and both left together.

I did that for a while. I simply didn't stay near any Druid, Amazon or Necromancer. Everyone else was fairly safe. I had completely fun and enjoyable runs with teams of barbs, sorcs and assasins. No worries at all there, even though rarely a sorc can be a cause for concern, but I see it very very rarely with the sorcs in Nightmare.

Basically after we had a decent killing party, we'd attempt to go private to avoid the random TPPK encounters that join every other game.

Basically, any amazon that is level 42 or higher, with a crossbow of some kind in hand, I just leave. Any Necromancer that spams spirits freely, I just leave. And if I see a wind druid, well, I just stay far away and out of the path of those random death torrents.

So now, instead of constantly playing in fear, I just cheat death in the ancients halls and other places. Decent EXP for me and my merc, and relatively safe, for now. But mainly its just annoying to not be able to play with people anymore.
 

Mecal

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i still do pub games. but whenever i see a necro use bone spirit, i usually stay on the other side of the throne room. and i always stay away from town portals.

thats about it.

oh, and i have never been TPPK'ed. luck maybe, or maybe im just devilishly handsome :wink2:
 

ConnerMacleod

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cougar said:
Naw, your not the only one. Seems once you reach nightmare baal, you can rest assured there's gonna be someone trying something on almost every run. It's really kind of ruining the game for me cause i absolutely hate playing paranoid of other players.

I'm more paranoid than you. I don't level in Baal runs but I will PK in them... legitly of course. Do I hate being paranoid? No. That's what I like most about Hardcore. If I see you following me around I take evasive action, and I've been known to TP to town and skip a WP to hostile someone I suspected. Unlike 90% of people that play, I take the time to twink my characters at necessary game points. Typically my characters have about 900 life by level 36, but with the reset they are stuck with all my life charms and only have around 800 between a bunch of grands, larges, and smalls.

Don't be paranoid too long, it'll hurt you in the end. Just take a deep breath, it's only a game.

Original Poster: Play pubbies, play privates, NM is actually very good solo. Hell is also doable solo with a sorc or any character with Teleport (NO, you do not need a flippin' Enigma for this).
 

CreLuSioN

Banned
if u got a strong char join games like a1 all and make a baal run in it good exp for you and your merc and no1 to tppk you
 

cougar

Diabloii.Net Member
Ya know, as i was playing, there's a simple solution to all this. Just set the level req of the game so no really high levels can join.. since most tppk's are much higher lvl than the game their in, you should be fine.
 

MoUsE_WiZ

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I always play in public runs, and I've never been TPPK'd. I've had a few people try it, but basically I don't stand near anyone I don't know, and move out of the way of projectiles. Really, you can't just leave at a necro any more, as here's the list of effectiveTPPK skills I've heard hackers talking about in pubs;
-Pretty much anything a sorc can cast, especially lightning/cl/cb
-Holyshock or fanat pally with widowmaker
-Sin with widowmaker (I find this one difficult to believe)
-Throw barb
-Obviously any necro could have BS
-Obviously any zon could have GA
-Obviously wind druids
 

toutim

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MoUsE_WiZ said:
I always play in public runs, and I've never been TPPK'd. I've had a few people try it, but basically I don't stand near anyone I don't know, and move out of the way of projectiles. Really, you can't just leave at a necro any more, as here's the list of effectiveTPPK skills I've heard hackers talking about in pubs;
-Pretty much anything a sorc can cast, especially lightning/cl/cb
-Holyshock or fanat pally with widowmaker
-Sin with widowmaker (I find this one difficult to believe)
-Throw barb
-Obviously any necro could have BS
-Obviously any zon could have GA
-Obviously wind druids
My point exactly. I won't stop plaing in pubbies just because some moronic kids tppk, and no char is safe to play with.
still alive for now
*kneels and prays*
*remember I'm not a believer and it won't help anyway*
* back to pubbies*
:lol:
 

Corndog

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I use pubs through nm and do not twink past my Full sigons set on those charachters, I do this in case they get tppk'd, I could care less about full sigons and could get it back in 1 day of mfing nm meph. I stay away from other charachters whilst doing so.

Unlike Conner I do not see the enjoyment of ruining someone elses pleasure time. On the flip side Pk's such as Conner are tolerable. If you get PK'd by a legit Pker then welcome to HC. Legit PK's are very easy to avoid unlike TPPK.

I simply refuse to public baal in Hell until TPPK is fixed. I spent my pleasure time getting the gear together for my ladder run charachter and to have that ruined by a hack user who has no concept of what I find fun the game is ridiculous. I have a small group of friends and we do private baals together. Hopefully Blizz will take action soon and I can return to enjoying the game with others and get to meet some new cool gamers.

Despite what some think, TPPK is ruining public gaming for legits, the same way that chicken hack is ruining HC. So many lamers in HC now because of chicken that it is ridiculous. Typically those lamers are the ones who go out and get the TPPK hack too. Everytime Blizzard installs something to try to subvert bots it usually punishes the legits even more than the cheaters.

Corn steps of the soapbox puts his hands in his pockets and walks away.
 
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