lets talk attack rating

lone_wolf

Diablo: IncGamers Member
lets talk attack rating

ok it seems to me that people build zons with next to none attack rating and then complain that various builds or weapons are useless.

so myself i have 9093 ar for strafe and 14644 for magic arrow

if we take the pit in the tamaoe highlands as a example

i have 95% chance to hit.

so for the sake of comparation whats your zons attack rating in the hell pit?
 

adddm

Diabloii.Net Member
Level 85 using upgraded WWS

5620 AR (Strafe)
5620+? AR (Normal Lvel 20 MA from WWS)
11064 AR (FA)

359 Dex
Level 13 Penetrate
No +AR charms

I don't seem to have trouble hitting in Hell Diff but I use a nicely equipped Act 2 Freeze Merc and can cast up to Level 40 Valk to protect my hide.
 

Omikron8

Diabloii.Net Member
lone_wolf said:
ok it seems to me that people build zons with next to none attack rating and then complain that various builds or weapons are useless.

so myself i have 9093 ar for strafe and 14644 for magic arrow

if we take the pit in the tamaoe highlands as a example

i have 95% chance to hit.

so for the sake of comparation whats your zons attack rating in the hell pit?
Level 92 with upgraded WWS
423 dex with equipment
level 22 penetrate (with chains of honor)
no other significant sources of AR besides a 150 AR ravenfrost and 115 AR rare ring
My attack rating is 9155 with strafe and i consistently have 90% or more chance to hit anything in the game except something extreme like baal or diablo.
 

lone_wolf

Diablo: IncGamers Member
Omikron8 are you following hunkys build? i see some simularities :thumbsup:

ohh and some update for myself due to new gear i now have 8460 ar with strafe and 13073 with magic arrow

dex also dropped to 356

still in the range of +90% chance to hit most monsters
 

FattyMcGee

Diabloii.Net Member
lvl 87 hybrid mf zon

maxed penetrate, 1 ravenfrost and 1 AR gc are sources of AR

have approx. 350 dex w/ all gear on

have 9089 AR strafe

have between 87-95% chance of hitting the pit monsters.

--fatty
 

JoJeck

Diabloii.Net Member
I checked how well my gal was doing against the Pit monsters and got some funny results. She's level 87 right now and uses an upgraded GSA (with 148% bonus AR) and Langer Briser on switch. She is based on Lone Wolf's Sniperzon build :) so she has maxxed MA and Strafe and +2 skills in her mf kit.

So for GSA her AR is 8250 strafe and 12774 MA and the Langer is 4886 strafe and 9410 MA.

I looked at the % chance to hit for only 3 of the 4 Pit monsters since the other just would not appear on the character screen. There are some big differences.

Bone Warrior.
GSA Strafe 83% MA 89%
LB Strafe 74% MA 85%

Devilkin
GSA Strafe **% MA 92%
LB Strafe 80% MA 90%

Dark Stalker
GSA Strafe 95% MA 95%
LB Strafe 87% MA 95%

So it matters a great deal what type of target you are shooting at it seems. Why is the Dark Stalker so much easier to hit :surprise: ? But I wonder if we can trust the % hit chance information from the so called LCS = Lying Character Screen ... apparently it has a bad reputation. Could this be a display problem?

It would be nice to compare what % chance to hit others get against these specific monsters in the Pit ... and who knows you might just get lucky when you kill them :lol:
 

lone_wolf

Diablo: IncGamers Member
well i dont trust the LCS either atleast not totaly.


for my own level ** sniperzon armed with a wf i can check the chance i have myself against those monsters


here they are:

Bone warrior: MA 89% strafe 84%

devilkin: MA 92% strafe **%

dark stalker: MA 95% strafe 95%

dark archer: MA 91% strafe 87%

so quite good as she has only 356 dex

edit: d2data lists dark stakers as having 1301 def in hell

bone warrior have according to d2data 1616 def in hell

and devilkin has 1155 so no idea why dark stalkers show up as so easy to hit.

if d2data is correct it would be devilkin that you hit most of the time

so either they are wrong or its a new case of LCS
 

FattyMcGee

Diabloii.Net Member
d2data is still largely in the 1.09 era, so I wouldn't trust that site completely yet either. I don't know who to trust... :creep:
 

YogiRat

Diabloii.Net Member
5620 AR (Strafe)
5620+? AR (Normal Lvel 20 MA from WWS)
11064 AR (FA)
It's interesting that the Witchys inherent MA gets no AR boost. My Witchyzon's regular attack and strafe AR is 5912, while her lvl4 MA AR is 6607.
 
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