Laidoff

[Corneo]

Laidoff

So yesterday was the big day that everyone at work got to find out if their job was safe or not. Since I am going back to school in the fall, I took my boss aside 2 weeks ago to let him know that if he had to choose between someone with a family and a mortgage payment or myself, letting me go would be ok with me.

Yesterday he took me into the conference room and told me the company decided to cut my job. Yes I got what I wanted, but it was a tough pill to swallow. Granted I have a plan, but it was still tough to know soon I will be out of a job. I got a package that will help a long way in graduate school.

But it was definitely very tough to see other people get let go when they did not see it coming. They laid off very good engineers that have been working for the same company for over 30 years. Some people looked devastated.

 

[Johnny]

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me and a few work mates where hoping to get laid off last winter but we had no luck. We're very optimistic towards next winter though.

 

[The Sandcat]

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They laid off very good engineers that have been working for the same company for over 30 years.

So,they must have been 55 years old .Time to retire.

The problem is when business picks up ,they will have to hire people fresh from college,with zero experience, but double the price. Strange that the bosses never fire themselves first, as they are the most expensive and least productive.

 

[Johnny]

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Strange that the bosses never fire themselves first, as they are the most expensive and least productive.

On you naive commie bastard.

 

[jmervyn]

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It's change you can believe in!

Yes, I'm sure it's a little hard on the old ego even if you more or less asked for it. I've never been fired outright, but I've been on the carpet more than once - the worst two times were when I refused an illegal order, and when I was castigated for not performing as if I was an actual computer scientist rather than just a programmer.

 

[Johnny]

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It's change you can believe in!

The economic crisis that started several months before he was even president?

 

[TheOgreMan]

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It's great that you have a plan to go back to school so the firing was less inconvenient for you than someone else. Good job on that.

One thing that really bugs me about people being fired is it also affects those of us who aren't. What I mean is that I house/pet sit for people to make a little extra money on the side; it helps with groceries, gas, and entertainment if I choose. But now these people who hire me for that, so they can go out of town for pleasure or whatnot, are asking me to lower my rates because they've been laid off, or had to cut back on hours, or whatever. It puts me in an awkward position because I need the money just as much as they do, but they don't have to go out of town if they can't afford it. Sheesh.

Or maybe I'm just a selfish *** who only wants my money. But hell, I do.

 

[Dondrei]

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That's rough, man. I've watched pretty much the whole floor above me get their marching orders. Everyone's just praying that their job is necessary for day-to-day running.

The economic crisis that started several months before he was even president?

Don't take away the only thing they've got, that's just mean.

 

[The Sandcat]

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@ Johnny:

Strange that the bosses never fire themselves first, as they are the most expensive and least productive.

This was supposed to be funny,even though some of these bank managers should have fired themselves, instead of getting fat bonuses!!

On you naive commie bastard.

WTF do commies have to do with this? Go fly a freaking kite!

Anyway,why does the whole world have to pay for the US f***ups? They can screw up their own country as much as they want, but should leave the rest out.

 

[phor]

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Good management would take pay cuts in order to keep workers on-board.
After all, they are the decision makers that got the company to where it is.
They certainly have no problem giving themselves fat bonuses when the company is doing well, so why should they not go down with the ship when it's not?

This is EXACTLY the reason why capitalism can't work without regulation.
There are just too many greedy pieces of sh%^ out there that have no shred of moral decency when it comes to business.

 

[trashX]

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Anyway,why does the whole world have to pay for the US f***ups? They can screw up their own country as much as they want, but should leave the rest out.

Im not sure I understand. If you're referring to how the US economy affects the rest of the world, then how about you just dont deal with america? Seems pretty simple

 

[Dirty_Zulu]

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Anyway,why does the whole world have to pay for the US f***ups? They can screw up their own country as much as they want, but should leave the rest out.

When times are good, everyone want to sell us something. How long did the good times last?

When times are bad, you want out? Can't have the cake and eat it too.

 

[Johnny]

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WTF do commies have to do with this? Go fly a freaking kite!

You assume that the management is per default a drain on the company and does not earn their wage just because they are management. That's commie talk.

 

[trashX]

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sandcat fails

 

[The Sandcat]

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When times are good, everyone want to sell us something. How long did the good times last?
When times are bad, you want out? Can't have the cake and eat it too.

The US by failing to control their banks , and selling their crappy sub-prime derivatives messed up the economy, and people all over the world get fired.
And the reason the US is interfering in other countries is because they want something from them, not vice versa.They care a blue damn what goes on in Zimbabwe, because they won't get anything out of that place.Ditto for Tibet, because that would piss off the Chinese, which own the US anyway ( where do you think that all the money the US borrows comes from??)

And then there are the stupid wars the US start and others have to pay for, at least in part ! Kuwait, Irak, Afghanistan ring a bell?
Then there was the Cold war, Vietnam, non of which really was of any use.
Or the "war" on drugs? Who the hell is using those drugs? Americans!
I could go on , but I'm wasting my time here.

then how about you just dont deal with america?

How is that going to fix the economy? At least our banks in southern Africa did not buy into this Sub- prime crap, and they are still in good shape.So, maybe you are right,in a way.

sandcat fails

Fails what? To be a good kitty?

 

[Euthyphro]

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This is EXACTLY the reason why capitalism can't work without regulation.
There are just too many greedy pieces of sh%^ out there that have no shred of moral decency when it comes to business.

You haven't thought this through very well. If there was no REGULATION, then those banks that gave themselves FAT BONUSES would have gone BANKRUPT. It was intervention that gave them the money that they used to reward themselves.

This is exactly why capitalism can't work WITH REGULATION. It isn't moral decency in business you need to worry about, that will work itself out in the marketplace. It is moral decency in government that should be priority.

The US by failing to control their banks , and selling their crappy sub-prime derivatives messed up the economy, and people all over the world get fired.

It was not a failure to control banks that caused the sub-prime bubble. Rather it was the federal reserve's control of banks and specifically of artificially set low interest rates that caused misallocation of funds into the housing market, in effect driving prices up (ie Inflated prices). On a free market, a natural rate of interest would have risen and alerted real estate speculators that their investments were not as profitable as the low interest rates made them appear.

This is not a failure of free market but rather a failing of central economic planning.

Cheers

 

[trashX]

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1)The US by failing to control their banks , and selling their crappy sub-prime derivatives messed up the economy, and people all over the world get fired.
And the reason the US is interfering in other countries is because they want something from them, not vice versa.They care a blue damn what goes on in Zimbabwe, because they won't get anything out of that place.Ditto for Tibet, because that would piss off the Chinese, which own the US anyway ( where do you think that all the money the US borrows comes from??)

2)And then there are the stupid wars the US start and others have to pay for, at least in part ! Kuwait, Irak, Afghanistan ring a bell?
Then there was the Cold war, Vietnam, non of which really was of any use.
Or the "war" on drugs? Who the hell is using those drugs? Americans!
I could go on , but I'm wasting my time here.

3)Fails what? To be a good kitty?

1) Never said they didn't messed up. They did. But you complaining about rest of the world losing money etc is simply pathetic. I believe it was known how the american banking system worked? So the risk was known, at least to anyone that cared to look. If you get screwed because you failed to be careful, that your own damn fault. Also don't most countries do things in their own interest?

2) Who exactly MADE you pay for that war? But, point taken the US has made a number of mistakes in that department. I'm not sure who outside the US has to pay for the war on drugs in the US. Also drugs are used around the world

3)Fail because you don't(didn't) present any arguments and just ranted.

 

[Johnny]

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I'm not sure who outside the US has to pay for the war on drugs in the US.

Colombian farmers? You spray the country with herbicides to kill the coca plants but the drug cartels just make a plant that resists it then that plant is spread over the country in a matter of months. Meanwhile farmers growing things other than coca plants have their crops ruined because somewhere in the area someone is suspected of having grown coca.

 

[Amra]

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But it was definitely very tough to see other people get let go when they did not see it coming. They laid off very good engineers that have been working for the same company for over 30 years. Some people looked devastated.

Sory to hear about your job. What line of work did you/they do?

So,they must have been 55 years old .Time to retire.

lol.... that's a good one.

The problem is when business picks up ,they will have to hire people fresh from college,with zero experience, but double the price. Strange that the bosses never fire themselves first, as they are the most expensive and least productive.

wow, you have no real work experience it seems. Or maybe things are assbackwards there. :scratchchin:

The economic crisis that started several months before he was even president?

Actually it was more like 2007. But Obama promised to save us from ourselves.

The US by failing to control their banks , and selling their crappy sub-prime derivatives messed up the economy, and people all over the world get fired.

Yeah, our banks were forcing people to buy things.

( where do you think that all the money the US borrows comes from??)

Where do YOU think it comes from? Here's your sign.

So yes, no doubt China is a significant player but certainly not the only one.

And then there are the stupid wars the US start and others have to pay for, at least in part ! Kuwait, Irak, Afghanistan ring a bell?
Then there was the Cold war, Vietnam, non of which really was of any use.

I think you forgot to mention the war on baldness.

Is there anything of value to you worth fighting for?

Or the "war" on drugs? Who the hell is using those drugs? Americans!

Goodness knows only Americans use drugs. :whistling:

Or wait, do you Canada, Mexico, and everyone in South America too?? I'm sure there is no drug use in other countries. :nono:

I could go on , but I'm wasting my time here.

That is one thing you got right.

 

[trashX]

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Colombian farmers? You spray the country with herbicides to kill the coca plants but the drug cartels just make a plant that resists it then that plant is spread over the country in a matter of months. Meanwhile farmers growing things other than coca plants have their crops ruined because somewhere in the area someone is suspected of having grown coca.

didnt know that. point taken