Ladder or not?

ldee187

Diabloii.Net Member
Ladder or not?

Hey I just got internet for my compy and now that i'm on battle.net, I was wondering about ladder chars. Are their advantages one way or the other?
 

Orphan

Diabloii.Net Member
Hey, welcome to the forums,

Maybe it's just me, but ladder seems to be alot cleaner than non-ladder (in terms of items and what-not).

Also, on ladder you have access to certain items that cannot drop on non-ladder (such as tomb reaver, or tyraels might). All the new runewords can't be created on non-ladder either. Finally, there's cube recipes that can only be used on ladder as well (such as upgrading an exceptional item to it's elite equivilent)

I'd go with the ladder character :D
 

gmcbroom

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah Orphen is absolutely CORRECT. The Ladder has too many advantages to be discounted do I strongly recommend it.
Just my 2 cents.
 

ldee187

Diabloii.Net Member
Tnx

Thanks guys, but one more thing: if it's such an obvious advantage, why would anyone EVER choose non Ladder?
 

Orphan

Diabloii.Net Member
ldee187 said:
Thanks guys, but one more thing: if it's such an obvious advantage, why would anyone EVER choose non Ladder?
Well, when a ladder season ends, all ladder characters get transferred to non-ladder (items and everything). Anyone who wishes to play a ladder character at that point would need to start over again, from level 1, with no items. They would need to rebuild their item database and what-not.

To most people, that seems like alot of work, especially since alot of people play this game on and off. On non-ladder, they already have their items, and their high level characters.

This is not to say that you don't get much time with your ladder characters. Ladder seasons last quite a long time, and there's plenty of time for you to get a bunch of high level characters, and get some of the best items in the game (alot of people already have). It's all about motivation, I guess.

If your about to go on the realms for the first time, I would recommend starting on ladder. When this season ends, the worst that can happen is your characters would be converted to non-ladder (like the rest of the ladder community) and you can continue playing non-ladder if you wish. Of course, you can also start a ladder character again, if you feel like starting from scratch with the rest of us :D.

As a note, no-one knows when the current ladder season will end. Blizzard will usually give a fair amount of time warning (about a month, I believe) when they decide to reset the ladder, but I don't really see it happening anytime soon.
 

Jimi-

Diabloii.Net Member
non ladder is also economicly unbalanced due too duping i think, you can attain the best runes in the game for a simple um that can drop in hellforge,
besides non ladder is no fun :), but if you cant stand the tought you cant get a enigma or anything go non ladder,
 

Sh4dovv

Banned
Jimi- said:
but if you cant stand the tought you cant get a enigma or anything go non ladder,
exactly!

come join me on non-ladder!

ladder = 2months+ to earn an enigma?!?!? NO THX!

jeez i earn 10+ hi runes a week on non-lad...u can make godly chars far easier (but that doesnt mean u can get hi runes rly easy on non-lad, its still rather hard to begin with...)

i played first ladder season, it wasnt bad but then when it ended i came to and have stayed non-ladder

TRUST ME, i have played both, NON IS MUCH BETTER! :xsmile4:

altho, since u will just end up in non-lad anyway, i guess you could play lad for now...

oh and one more thing, many ppl think that ladder is 100% legit...WRONG

it hasnt been going for anywhere near as long as non-ladder...so of course there are LESS DUPES, but items are still duped...espeicially high runes

just gotta take one look on eBay to see wat is being duped!
 

Baranor

Diabloii.Net Member
well, I cant agree on non ladder being more fun, but I play HC< and there simply arent enough non ladder games. However, indeed, the ladder is just as much infested with cheating low lifes as the non ladder area.
 

Fercil

Diabloii.Net Member
Sh4dovv said:
ladder = 2months+ to earn an enigma?!?!? NO THX!

jeez i earn 10+ hi runes a week on non-lad...u can make godly chars far easier
According to that logic the best place to go is open bnet since there you can get your enigma and 10+ high runes even faster.
 

Sh4dovv

Banned
Fercil said:
According to that logic the best place to go is open bnet since there you can get your enigma and 10+ high runes even faster.
thats just going too far tho...

also, ppl claim ladder is better cause there are items u can only get there...same with NL! there are items here which u cant get on ladder (i.e .08 and .09 items!)
 

Sartok

Diabloii.Net Member
Sh4dovv said:
thats just going too far tho...

also, ppl claim ladder is better cause there are items u can only get there...same with NL! there are items here which u cant get on ladder (i.e .08 and .09 items!)
True point... but the idea of a controlled world and a fresh start appeal to some. I play ladder because I like the challenge of playing new again every year or so... I think it really just depends on how you want to play the game.
 

GIR

Banned
I'd say if you're just starting out, go for Ladder.

A lot of people play non-ladder because they already have all their characters made on there and didn't feel like starting over, just like some people liked the challenge of starting over brand new on Ladder. Everyone has their own reasons for liking what they like, but I'm not about to get into a big ladder vs. non debate.
 

Fercil

Diabloii.Net Member
Sh4dovv said:
thats just going too far tho...

also, ppl claim ladder is better cause there are items u can only get there...same with NL! there are items here which u cant get on ladder (i.e .08 and .09 items!)
Main difference is that on non-ladder 99,9% of 1.08 items which are worth having compared to ladder only items or their 1.10 counterparts are dupes while on ladder you can actually get the legit items which can't be found on non-ladder. Favouring non-ladder because there are dupes more easily available is just plain stupid.

For the record, I played non-ladder but only because I was too lazy to start from the scratch.
 

SilentMagik

Diabloii.Net Member
Would just like to point out that apart from ladder-only items, there are also upgrade recipies that are available only on ladder. IIRC upgrading exceptional uniqes to elite versions only work on ladder, as well as upgrading runes from Dol and upward.

In short, ladder offer more possibilites at the cost of having to start from scratch every ladder reset. Some enjoy this and some don't. You just have to decide to which category you belong.
 

Sh4dovv

Banned
i dont see why using duped items is bad...provided you dont dupe them urself :howdy:

trading and using a duped item is no different to trading and using any other item in the game....
 

Elgar

Diabloii.Net Member
Sh4dovv said:
i dont see why using duped items is bad...provided you dont dupe them urself :howdy:

trading and using a duped item is no different to trading and using any other item in the game....
because by using a dupe you are in essence promoting duping. Duping is wrong, and by using a dupe you are just as wrong.
 

Flip10thMtn

Diabloii.Net Member
well....

I play Non-Ladder only due to having all my characters already there. I'm not a "purist" and I do twink and with all the gear I've garnered on NL over the years I've played, Ladder just didnt seem the way to go. I also missed the reset (took some time off) and figured it was a moot point to switch.

Now IF I was starting anew, I'd probably go ladder due to the "extras" mentioned above. I'm still a bit disappointed that they offered the "new" stuff for Ladder-Only, hopefully when the next reset happens they will allow NL the new options and gear.
 
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