lacerator vs asterons
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strength_honor
Banned
Cons: Anyone caught using we be NKed for sure.
Mr.Glasscock
Banned
Con; both are slow for serious smiter hybrids (probably even smiters; i haven't had a smiter only build)
Con; terrible range (can't charge very well w/ them)
Pro; astreons seems to massively kb 100% of the time
Con; using them pretty much qualifies you as a skill-less paladin
Con; bm of course
Con; any smart person dueling against these weapons will simply not melee you and kill you by outranging you or just using ranged attacks.
Con; not very customizable
Pro; lac's amp, although someone can reposition themselves w/out much trouble since its lack of range. then you wont be able to land a hit.
Con; terrible range (can't charge very well w/ them)
Pro; astreons seems to massively kb 100% of the time
Con; using them pretty much qualifies you as a skill-less paladin
Con; bm of course
Con; any smart person dueling against these weapons will simply not melee you and kill you by outranging you or just using ranged attacks.
Con; not very customizable
Pro; lac's amp, although someone can reposition themselves w/out much trouble since its lack of range. then you wont be able to land a hit.
Weltkriegpally
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needing 35 ias makes astreons slow? astreons is also range 2, so it isn't that bad for duels. it is bad mannered (both), but if it weren't for astreons slow, the other mods on it are quite excellent, both for a zealot and smiter. lacerators amp is very bad mannered, although thats its only noteworthy mod for smiting. really, there are some duels where the slow doesn't matter on astreons, so that makes it an excellent weapon for duels. i use it myself when those duels are being fought, such as ww barbs/sins or teleporting casters. Other times I use a silenced zerker. It just depends on the duel and the weapon to be used. Otherwise, there are better choices.
--welt
--welt
ReallFugitive
Diabloii.Net Member
How would a rare flail with +2 pala skill, 40%IAS, 2 open sockets and 5% chance to cast amp compare agianst lacerator (I just happen to have one.)?Weltkriegpally said:needing 35 ias makes astreons slow? astreons is also range 2, so it isn't that bad for duels. it is bad mannered (both), but if it weren't for astreons slow, the other mods on it are quite excellent, both for a zealot and smiter. lacerators amp is very bad mannered, although thats its only noteworthy mod for smiting. really, there are some duels where the slow doesn't matter on astreons, so that makes it an excellent weapon for duels. i use it myself when those duels are being fought, such as ww barbs/sins or teleporting casters. Other times I use a silenced zerker. It just depends on the duel and the weapon to be used. Otherwise, there are better choices.
--welt
Weltkriegpally
Diabloii.Net Member
lessee....plus skills/base -10 weapon with all ias inherent, range 3 (good thing here) and 2 sockets allowed to do whatever you want. I would say it has to kick its butt. The only bad thing about that scepter is the amp, but it will go off a lot less than a lacerator. Btw, nice flail. :thumbsup:ReallFugitive said:How would a rare flail with +2 pala skill, 40%IAS, 2 open sockets and 5% chance to cast amp compare agianst lacerator (I just happen to have one.)?
ReallFugitive
Diabloii.Net Member
Thanks, Now I just need to figure what to put in there.Weltkriegpally said:lessee....plus skills/base -10 weapon with all ias inherent, range 3 (good thing here) and 2 sockets allowed to do whatever you want. I would say it has to kick its butt. The only bad thing about that scepter is the amp, but it will go off a lot less than a lacerator. Btw, nice flail. :thumbsup:
jumbo_SHRIMP
Diabloii.Net Member
2 um runes
phelix
phelix
ReallFugitive
Diabloii.Net Member
That was the first thing that came to mind, Although other people cry big time about wounds. I'm using upgraded HOZ as my shield, I'm looking mainly a way to add more damage other than wounds. My resists are stacked high to everything. Any other suggestions?jumbo_SHRIMP said:2 um runes
phelix
ReallFugitive said:That was the first thing that came to mind, Although other people cry big time about wounds. I'm using upgraded HOZ as my shield, I'm looking mainly a way to add more damage other than wounds. My resists are stacked high to everything. Any other suggestions?
2 ber if you dont like OW.
jumbo_SHRIMP
Diabloii.Net Member
who gives a crap if other people dont like it...people ***** about every little thing when they get beaten...open wounds is just fine...dont like open wounds? use prayer + meditation or something similar...
phelix
phelix
ArcaneLegend
Diabloii.Net Member
hmm...i heard all healing stops while ur affect by OW.
anyway...smite duels generally end pretty quickly, so i think CB would make a greater difference. go for 2 bers.
anyway...smite duels generally end pretty quickly, so i think CB would make a greater difference. go for 2 bers.
inkanddagger
Banned
sell it to me for 40 zods.
or berber it.
or berber it.
Hmm.. your problem is both weps' is slower than phaseblade.
I 've been beat many ppl those who use same wep as yours,
with my poor gear but more IAS. However u will be OK if u fight with normal
melee eg. zealot, barb, druid but when u meet Smiter who has more IAS
than your, u will get stunned forever cuz he can smite faster than u.
Ever get beaten while your opponent has 1 life left ? that possible for smiter.
Stunned = dead. :winner:
I 've been beat many ppl those who use same wep as yours,
with my poor gear but more IAS. However u will be OK if u fight with normal
melee eg. zealot, barb, druid but when u meet Smiter who has more IAS
than your, u will get stunned forever cuz he can smite faster than u.
Ever get beaten while your opponent has 1 life left ? that possible for smiter.
Stunned = dead. :winner: