cracked sash
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Kingslayer vs Passion
Softcore Ladder PvM Melee Sorc---
It has been since patch .09 since I have last tried to make a melee sorc. I just finished making all three high lvl single tree sorcs- blizzard, fireball/meteor, and lightning/chain lightning. So I have gotten accustom to 22K damage or something outrageous like that, which was a lot of fun. Anyway after making all these overpowered sorcs I am now thinking about making a total pro melee sorc. As I am looking at these new runewords it is difficult to chose the best weapon for her. Yesterday I found a 4 socket Cryptic Sword and already have the necessary runes from all my forge runs and am considering making a melee either a Kingslayer or Passion Runeword weapon (see stats below). Is a 4 socket Cryptic Sword the optimum base weapon for these runewords for a melee sorc or would a Phase blade be better? I also have a 2 socket Djinn Slayer and the mighty Azurewrath as well, but with a req lvl of 85 on the Azurewrath it will be a while before she will be able to use it. I think I am going to lvl with my trusty Hexfire, until I can use either Kingslayer or Passion.
Kingslayer- (Mal + Um + Gul + Fal)
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+230-270% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-25% Target Defense
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
33% Chance of Crushing Blow
50% Chance of Open Wounds
+1 To Vengeance
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Strength
40% Extra Gold From Monsters
The Kingslayer grants a +1 to Vengance! That is a skill I have never used with any of my Pally builds before, so I am a bit unfamiliar with it. I hear it derives elemental damage- fire, cold, and lightning, from your weapons base damage. So a Kingslayer Sorc should Max Warmth, Enchant, Fire Mastery, Cold Mastery, and Lightning Mastery? Thats 100 points total, not much room for static field or a cold armor. So this build would be complete at lvl 90ish or so, and I am not sure that is even possible for a melee sorc, lol. Anyway, how does a Kingslayer Sorc fair in Hell against Fire Immunes? With 2 soj's, Viper Magi, Arachnid Mesh, and Anni thats makes for +5 all skills, or a lvl 6 Vengance I believe. What kind of damage out-put can I expect at lvl 6? To top it off the Kingslayer has great crushing blow; and with Goreriders and an UM'd Guillaume's Face, thats a grand total of 83% crushing blow- so that will help.
Passion - (Dol + Ort + Eld + Lem)
+25% Increased Attack Speed
+160-210% Enhanced Damage
50-80% Bonus To Attack Rating
+75% Damage To Undead
+50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
+1 To Berserk
+1 To Zeal
Hit Blinds Target +10
Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
75% Extra Gold From Monsters
Level 3 Heart of Wolverine (12 Charges)
The Passion sorc needs enough + skills to bring the Zeal up to 5 hits. That would make better use of my CB gear, thats for sure. Passion looks like a great single tree weapon. I would not need to max the other masteries so I could drop points into FO for fire Immunes... but that would not be very melee would it? I suppose a Might Merc with a Tombreaver could help break those immunes. I heard good things about switching to a Glimmershread as well... Anyway, how much health does a lvl 3 Heart of Wolverine grant? I bet it dies real quick too...
I need to figure out my resistance gear, like CoH or the Up'd Um'd Viper Magi with my Up'd 2x pDimond Mosers. Though I think the Mosers with 65% block requires too many dex points for max block. I also have an Up'd Um'd Visurant to chose from, it has 72% i believe, leaving room for more health. I don't have a SS or that would be a consideration. I think Magefists are probably the best bet for gloves (bloodfist a close second), and Tal's Ammy (wish I had Mara's on ladder). Besides my Anni and a hand-full of Fire Skillers, I need to find good elemental charms that would be enhanced by my masteries.
-Sash
Softcore Ladder PvM Melee Sorc---
It has been since patch .09 since I have last tried to make a melee sorc. I just finished making all three high lvl single tree sorcs- blizzard, fireball/meteor, and lightning/chain lightning. So I have gotten accustom to 22K damage or something outrageous like that, which was a lot of fun. Anyway after making all these overpowered sorcs I am now thinking about making a total pro melee sorc. As I am looking at these new runewords it is difficult to chose the best weapon for her. Yesterday I found a 4 socket Cryptic Sword and already have the necessary runes from all my forge runs and am considering making a melee either a Kingslayer or Passion Runeword weapon (see stats below). Is a 4 socket Cryptic Sword the optimum base weapon for these runewords for a melee sorc or would a Phase blade be better? I also have a 2 socket Djinn Slayer and the mighty Azurewrath as well, but with a req lvl of 85 on the Azurewrath it will be a while before she will be able to use it. I think I am going to lvl with my trusty Hexfire, until I can use either Kingslayer or Passion.
Kingslayer- (Mal + Um + Gul + Fal)
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+230-270% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-25% Target Defense
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
33% Chance of Crushing Blow
50% Chance of Open Wounds
+1 To Vengeance
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Strength
40% Extra Gold From Monsters
The Kingslayer grants a +1 to Vengance! That is a skill I have never used with any of my Pally builds before, so I am a bit unfamiliar with it. I hear it derives elemental damage- fire, cold, and lightning, from your weapons base damage. So a Kingslayer Sorc should Max Warmth, Enchant, Fire Mastery, Cold Mastery, and Lightning Mastery? Thats 100 points total, not much room for static field or a cold armor. So this build would be complete at lvl 90ish or so, and I am not sure that is even possible for a melee sorc, lol. Anyway, how does a Kingslayer Sorc fair in Hell against Fire Immunes? With 2 soj's, Viper Magi, Arachnid Mesh, and Anni thats makes for +5 all skills, or a lvl 6 Vengance I believe. What kind of damage out-put can I expect at lvl 6? To top it off the Kingslayer has great crushing blow; and with Goreriders and an UM'd Guillaume's Face, thats a grand total of 83% crushing blow- so that will help.
Passion - (Dol + Ort + Eld + Lem)
+25% Increased Attack Speed
+160-210% Enhanced Damage
50-80% Bonus To Attack Rating
+75% Damage To Undead
+50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
+1 To Berserk
+1 To Zeal
Hit Blinds Target +10
Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
75% Extra Gold From Monsters
Level 3 Heart of Wolverine (12 Charges)
The Passion sorc needs enough + skills to bring the Zeal up to 5 hits. That would make better use of my CB gear, thats for sure. Passion looks like a great single tree weapon. I would not need to max the other masteries so I could drop points into FO for fire Immunes... but that would not be very melee would it? I suppose a Might Merc with a Tombreaver could help break those immunes. I heard good things about switching to a Glimmershread as well... Anyway, how much health does a lvl 3 Heart of Wolverine grant? I bet it dies real quick too...
I need to figure out my resistance gear, like CoH or the Up'd Um'd Viper Magi with my Up'd 2x pDimond Mosers. Though I think the Mosers with 65% block requires too many dex points for max block. I also have an Up'd Um'd Visurant to chose from, it has 72% i believe, leaving room for more health. I don't have a SS or that would be a consideration. I think Magefists are probably the best bet for gloves (bloodfist a close second), and Tal's Ammy (wish I had Mara's on ladder). Besides my Anni and a hand-full of Fire Skillers, I need to find good elemental charms that would be enhanced by my masteries.
-Sash
