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Kicksin Weapon Question

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by hackedagainanda, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. hackedagainanda

    hackedagainanda Diabloii.Net Member

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    I have Beast, Fleshripper, and Stormlash.

    I can't decide which one to use, I was browsing the Warrior-Monk thread and all 3 have glowing recommendations.

    I was wondering if it might be better to have all 3 on my kicksin and and switch them out depending on my needs.
     
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    srrw Diabloii.Net Member

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    Stormlash.

    Only Last Wish is comparable, really.
     
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    Agree with the above, stormlash is definately the best of the three, last wish is amazing with huge crushing blow and built in might allowing a different merc, but its way too steep of a price for what its limited uses are.

    I used rift because I like pretty colors and the orbs do decent job of taking out the trash (I also don't currently have a stormlash, so that might have been a factor).
     
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    thefranklin Diabloii.Net Member

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    Kicksins are the best because you have so many options for the weapon slot.

    I would go Fleshripper for P1 (assuming DS is used) and Stormlash for higher player settings. I might also go Azurewrath (if you have one) for the undead ownage and to have a little style. Although 'lash is a beaut. Maybe the answer is you need two or three kicksins?
     
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    Jcakes Diabloii.Net Member

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    I also like lawbringer for ctc decrep and sanctuary
     
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    Zenigma Diabloii.Net Member

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    If only +damage worked....
     
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    OTOH then you'd be using grief, like every other post 1.13 melee character ever*. ;)
     
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    What boots are you using with it?
     
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    Pyrotechnician Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    Kicksins really only have two choices, up'd gores, or shadow dancers, and shadow dancers just don't have the adds a kick sin build needs in comparison. I can see shadow dancers being superior on an explosion kick sin, but not on a standard kicker.
     
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    dave Diabloii.Net Member

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    Upped Gores also have a str req of 156 which is perfect if you are using a monarch (stormshield/spirit/jmod, etc)
     
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    Though slightly weaker, upped war travs it double upped goblin toe are both extremely viable, though double upped goblin toe is definitely more of a niche item, used almost strictly for boss-killing or, if you play online, ubers/dclone

    And, if I recall correctly, war travs' adds 25-50 damage does affect kick damage, so that helps bridge the gap, seeing as how that's affected further by the skill damage and stats bonus (both str and dex for kicks).... then again, I'm not 100% sure of that. Can someone verify?
     
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    srrw Diabloii.Net Member

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    WT's damage does not count for kicks. Just like any other source of +min/max damage. Only %ED except from the weapon is added to the kicks.
     
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    oou, I didn't know str + dex applied to kicks
     
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    Thanks for the correction.

    And phar, I'm pretty sure that str and dex affect kicks, iI think there's a calculator floating around somewhere.
     
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    Anytime I ever have a question regarding assassins, I usually just refer to maxicek's assasin faq. The fifth post is about Martial Arts and includes kicks. Both strength and dex factor into kick damage. All the things that work/don't work with kicks is listed as well.

    http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/threads/assassin-faq.794710/
     
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    +STR +DEX effect Kicks and Claws.
    Same way must lvl both @Equal See the stat bonuses of Nats Set !

    Pure Kickers are a waste currently the way it works for 5 kicks IMHO and Superboots are not needed as was pointed out, if trapper build it's a quick start - no charge ups kill for the DS + CE
    enough dtalon for 3 kick sequence with gear and not a lot of points spent.
    I have Self Upped Gores from a old pure kicker build, Respected as it was not worth it for max kicks outside of dueling, like most pure MA Builds kind of sucky but a lot of fun, I have a few sin builds on US_West and swap the Chaos/fury claws etc around a lot with uped boots
    The WT and GToe X2 ups (If only you could switch boots GToe for the CB and WT for the Drop :D) sound nice but lazy and use both at base on sins a lot.
     
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