Kicker build for taking Baal/Dclone fast ...

[Kijya]

Kicker build for taking Baal/Dclone fast ...

I'm thinking of making a Baal/DClone killer kicker. Main idea is to make use of open Baalruns and if they leave for nxt, just stay behind and kill baal ... I'd like some advice in my setup, if it's viable that is ...

Helm: Gullinams
Armor: Duress
Belt: Nosferatu's Coil or Verdungo's
Gloves: Draculas
Boots: upped Gore rider or Shadow Dancers
Weapons: Dual Jade (MF on swith)
Ring1: Raven
Ring2: Rare: mana leach, Stats, Resists
Amu: Highlords

In stash is Tgods and rising sun for Dclone

Skills:
20 Dtalon
1 in rest finishing moves
20 Venom
CoS (-95% enemy def)
Claw block (58 %)
1 in rest shadow skills

Well as you see I'm not very sure about what skills yet. Does CoS even work on bosses? otherwise would it be a good idea to soket one Jade with a Jah? As for prevent monster heal I'm hoping Venom to do the job, and Draculas to make visits to town unnessesery. I'm not really sure of anything as I've never battled DClone yet ... what skillers should I use (plain ones) Shadow or MA? Stats?

 

[gugudu]

i can only answer the skillers Q and that would be life and shadow gcs the jade with a jah aint a bad idea but maybe try and find a wpn with some cb although u get it from gores and gulliames u should try and get some more somewhere just cause its a good idea to have as much cb as possible on bosses, about tactics for Dclone, i have no idea, PMH would be a great mod for him though cause he does heal back fast if u dont kill fast enough, sorry i couldnt help more

 

[Kijya]

i can only answer the skillers Q and that would be life and shadow gcs the jade with a jah aint a bad idea but maybe try and find a wpn with some cb although u get it from gores and gulliames u should try and get some more somewhere just cause its a good idea to have as much cb as possible on bosses, about tactics for Dclone, i have no idea, PMH would be a great mod for him though cause he does heal back fast if u dont kill fast enough, sorry i couldnt help more

np, thx for your reply.
Hmm as the MF on swith is mainly for baal, a PMH weapon there might be possible agains Dclone. as Draculs keep my life up, I think I'll be able to keep on him all the time making poison PMH work. is maxing Venom really a good idea or will the dmg be to low? a poison charm would have longer duration I guess ... I don't even know if the ITD from a weapon can influence a kick ...

 

[ilkori]

Making a build specifically for killing bosses (not worrying about general PvM) is a bit different than the standard kicker build. I would use this:

Weapon: Fleshripper (mf on switch) (25 CB or 45 CB if Ber'd)
Shield: Stormshield (Um)
Helm: Guillaumes (Um) (35 CB)
Armor: Duress (10 CB)
Belt: TGod's (for Souls and DClone)
Gloves: Dracul's
Boots: upped Gore Riders (15 CB)
Ring1: Raven
Ring2: Rare: mana leach, Stats, Resists
Amu: Metalgrid/Maras (Rising Sun for DClone)

Final CB: 85% or 100% (anything past 100 doesn't help, so I stop at 100)

Charms: (no skillers or anni)
Resists (until maxed)
Life/AR scs (+dmg doesn't work with kicks)
6+ FHR (2 scs, or 1 lc/gc)
Rest - I'd leave it open for picking up items; it'll speed up your time between games

Skills
20 DTalon
20 CoS (yep, works on bosses... this is the only build I would max the skill on)
20 Death Sentry (helps your exp in Baal Runs)
1 Blade Fury
1 Dragon Flight
1 Mind Blast
1 prereqs
Rest can go into a Shadow or Venom


edit - ITD does not work on bosses, though CoS and Eth runes do.

 

[bipolar]

Shield: Stormshield (Um)

What a waste of an um. Shael or PDiamond would be my choice. If this is strictly for DClone and Baal, though, Lo or Vex could work if you're rich.

 

[Tindil]

I always used a smiter for D clone, but my guess is with the sin since you are kicking so fast when u count in crushing blow D Clone or bosses or whatever die so ridiculously fast (like 10 seconds or less) that leeching isnt that important. Go with FoH gloves for ownage.

 

[ilkori]

When asked for the best, I give the best.

Also, %dmg to Demons does nothing for kicks.


For the record, a CS Zon or Smiter will most likely be faster. The whole Always Hits and Ignores Blocking properties on Smite are vicious.

 

[Kijya]

Thx for all replies :clap:

Think I'll follow your setup (with some little tweak) ilkori.

ITD does not work on bosses

leaving you when you need it the most ... what a ripoff god for nothing "#!¤"#¤!% :rant:

20 CoS (yep, works on bosses... this is the only build I would max the skill on)

I'm starting to feel like this is the best skill in game :lol:

What a waste of an um. Shael or PDiamond would be my choice. If this is strictly for DClone and Baal, though, Lo or Vex could work if you're rich.

Think I've got an umed one, Lo or Vex is really beond my economy ...

%dmg to Demons does nothing for kicks.

Thx for this small pice of info ... had considered LoH but now nothing stands in the way of draculas

For the record, a CS Zon or Smiter will most likely be faster. The whole Always Hits and Ignores Blocking properties on Smite are vicious.

Guess your right. I would not know about the smiter thou as I only play the female chars


btw how about the stats? as kickers gain dmg from str & dex I don't know where to stop. As soon as I can use the equipment?

 

[ilkori]

One other thing with the shield: Shael is useless in it. It already meets one breakpoint, and it cannot meet the next breakpoint for FBR (even with Guardian Angel).


For stats, the basic is enough str/dex for equipment/max block, rest into vitality. My builds tend to get a bit extra in strength for equipment flexibility.

BTW, the biggest knock against Highlords is that Deadly Strike does not work with kicks either. If you need the resists anyway... you might as well use Maras or Metalgrid. I put metalgrid first for its AR boost.

Fleshripper (or Kingslayer) is by far the best weapon for a boss killer.

One last thought on charms - you may want some Martial Arts skillers if you aren't already at level 24 in Talon. That extra kick will help your speed - plus you get some extra damage.

 

[Kijya]

Hmm what about [size=-1]Eternity? well the [/size][size=-1]Sur, Ber and ist is beond my economy at the moment ... but would not the [/size][size=-1]Slows Target By 33% make up for the loss of CB?
Black will probably what I'll start with untill I get hold of a [/size][size=-1]Kingslayer. how does the -25% enemy defence on Kingslayer work with CoS?

I'll go mara as I've got one but no Metalgrid. with max talon and -95% from CoS I don't think ar will be a prob.
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[ilkori]

The eth rune works after the CoS is calculated. If I remember right, those bosses have something around 5k Def. So, -95% from CoS drops that to 250. The effect of Eth runes is halved for players, act bosses, and a couple random guys, so it's -12.5%. That should drop it to 200ish def.


Slows target will never make up for the loss of CB. You also lose Prevent Monster heal. If you really want slow, a good merc will get you all you need. One hit with Kelpie Snare, and they'll be limping for a good long time.

 

[Kijya]

ok, thx
5k def? that's just nothing CoS will do fine alone there. surely lvl difference will influence a little to but not to much ...