Kick sin weapons...

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candystar

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Kick sin weapons...

There has been a lot of suggestions from death web to stormlash...

I am planning to get a bloodman, how viable is that?

And which weapon does YOUR kick sin use?
 
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BAMFSpecialOps

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bloodman?!


ive used alot of weapons on my kickers, from chaos/fury*on ww/kick* to um'd fleshripper*one of the best* to lastwish, and id give the nod to um'd fleshripper its not to expensive and is really nice.
 
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zdawnz

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Wizspike with res jewel or um up to you. or dual jade talons for res and block for casters either with um or res jewel or 1 each. i dont really understand the use of flesh ripper since it sacrifice fcr and mb is one key element to kicker..
 
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BAMFSpecialOps

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it has never been stated in this topic of pvp/pvm for pvm fleshripper is alot better than a wiz for pvp both that u mentioned are viable dependin on the armor set up
 
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mephiztophelez

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w1zAd3pt swears by an Um'd Fleshripper, and he's the regocnised authority on such things.

i've also heard of peeps using an um'd d-web. an um'd wizknife can be handy vs casters.

i've thought an 1xup'd um'd blood-crescent cutlass could work quite nicely. it's wicked fast (-30wsm), but can't say i've tried it.

stormlash is a gosu PvM kick-wep but crapola pvp.
 
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wizAdept

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BAMFSpecialOps said:
never tried kingslayer how well does it work out?
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Decent pvm weapon. There used to be a lot of pvm kicksins in early 1.10 that used it. Doesn't compare to Um'd Fleshripper in pvp though.


On my kicksins (d2pk build and east nl build, they use about the same gear, some differences are noted) these are the weapons I carry:

Um'd fleshripper - primary w/s weapon, what I use most of the time unless otherwise stated.
Um'd dweb - owns anyone who skimps on resists. good players will stack on poison resists which makes death's web useless, which is why I use fleshripper with 75% ow as my primary weapon, but if dweb can pierce, it will pk.. very very fast.
Um'd wizardspike - 102+ cast with a SS, some ow, nice stack res. I use this for facing blizzard sorcs, or when I need speed like vs multiple bowzons/sorcs, good pvp weapon to carry stashed, weak vs pallies and barbs. Good weapon for playing a support/stun player when in teams.
Lacerator - yay amp. I have found Um'd fleshripper to be superior in every 1v1 matchup to lace but lace is decent and fun to use when there is a druid/barb/bowzon on your team.

Ber'd SS being shield in w/s obviously, sometimes spirit monarch for 102+fcr/dweb or fleshie but usually the rule is if you are on w/s it's to have 50dr/maxblock/gg blockrate with SS. Otherwise c/c for casters if you don't need dr or block. Gear yourself for the biggest threat. If there is a bvc in the game you should be using a SS unless you like being torn up in 1 triwhirl. If you are dueling a bunch of fb sorcs/trappers/necros, no reason to be on w/s is there? w/s would actually make the duel harder. If there are both barbs and necros, use w/s and expect a difficult duel.

Primary claws:
Artisan's runic of quickness socketed 3x Um - once again OW% is one of main sources of damage for a pvp kicksin. Fury runic or gt is just about as good if you can't get ahold of a ArtoQ or AgtoQ.
Fools rare rt with 40ias and other mods socketed 2x Um - Fools does work on kicks despite not showing up on the character screen. On d2pk my kicksin uses a fairly rediculous rare claw of this type. On east my kicksin uses a magic fools of quickness with 2x Um.
Malice +3 venom claw - 100% ow and venom, great claw for BoS since you don't need ias on your weapon. Make sure to have 5+ replenish to malice doesn't eat away at you.

Offhand claws:
3shadow disc /3 venom facet'd claw - yay more damage. Possible to get 2k+ (depending on number of skillers, I get 2k on my d2pk build and 1.8k on my east kicksin, and I dont use full skillers on either) venom damage unbuffed on a c/c enigma setup with this.
Jade talon - when stacking resists is necessary. I use one with a rare 30 light res jewel on east when I need to stack res.



There are some other weapons I have seen kicksins use, I don't carry them because of stash room restrictions.

These are:
Doom warspike - Decent weapon overall. I just find it doesn't give much advantage in any duel except those kicksins have a class advantage in anyways. So no point to use it really. Some kickers like to kvk with it. I like to pk those with fleshie.
Um'd azure - Meh.
Chaos gt - Can be used for moving around in ww to position yourself to kick. Kinda useful. Otherwise as a kicking weapon, see Azure comment.
Beast warspike - eww fade build, no mobility on w/s = weaksauce.
lastwish or stormlash - keep these for pvm builds. very gg pvm. very bad in pvp.

There are also other weapon choices I have not seen in use on bnet that should work pretty fine.
Like jeweler's phase blade of quickness socketed with 4x Um. Nice style points.
Would I use it in a srsly serious duel instead of Um'd Fleshripper? Nah.
Basically you *really* want your primary weapon in pvp to be a source of ow%, but mods like elemental pierce, +fcr, slow, resists, and so on are reasons to carry other weapons in the stash. You always want at least some ow% on your weapon imo. Um runes own.

There are some specialty weapons like my d2pk kicksin carrys a stashed 5x poison facet, 15ias/30coldres phase blade. But.. thats not a weapon people should really worry about getting. I haven't had to use it yet, but there is a reason it's there. <.<

On a side note I havent been impressed by physical damage kicksins at all. They all try to use beast for physical damage and it's just not worth it. Never seen them be any good, really didnt see beast as a worthwhile weapon when I tried it. Some try to cap out their physical damage using beast with phoenix/fort and they just suck pvp. Enigma always ftw, BoS whenever possible, and Ive never seen a beast using kicksin be any good. You need to boost dtalon to maximize in physical, which means long kick sequences, which ends up with the kicksin dead in pvp. And the damage is not worth it either.

Oh.. and every once in a while I see players using grief on kickars. please.. gawd kills so many kittens.



 
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