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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by llad12, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Dondrei

    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Why not cover the whole lot? The chances of having to pay out such a claim are miniscule.
     
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    PFSS Diabloii.Net Member

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    I wonder where insurance companies get their money from... :scratch:


    Don't many insurance companies not cover chronic illnesses too?

    I really don't see the issue with why it would be so hard to set up.

    Go before a judge, tell them you do not want to live but are for whatever reason (paralysis for example) unable to kill yourself and you want someone to jam a lethal dose of morphee into your arm.

    What's so hard about that?


     
  3. Johnny

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    Because the "whole lot" is the total cost for the whole nation wide program.

    So the insurance company would base its entire future on no one filling a claim for that.



     
  4. Dondrei

    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    Heh, guess insurance companies can't turn a profit.
     
  5. Johnny

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    Not if they decide its a good idea to pay for a whole government program on thier own.



     
  6. Dondrei

    Dondrei Diabloii.Net Member

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    The only thing that matters to an insurance company is the rate of claims vs. amount of holders.
     
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    bagar Diabloii.Net Member

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    Dondrei:

    Some very cold-hearted (maybe ignorant) comments even coming from you. Feel free to elaborate on those who deserves to die and who deserves to live.
     
  8. Talga Vasternich

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    Do you know who the "insurance company" for the elderly is in America? I don't think so, from this reply.
    To clue you in: it's the federal government, not privately owned companies. It's called Medicare, and it is funded by tax dollars from working people.

    Way to not answer the question.



     
  9. Johnny

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    Actualy that was funded by the old people back when they where working and didnt cost tax money. Just like when todays "working people" will be tommorows old people.

    I did asnwer it.

    I have been there and she asked to not be resuscitated and then later passed on.

    Patients who wish to die can sign a "Do not resuscitated" order and next time they get a fatal episode they will die.


    Talga Im supprised you find time to wish death on the old people in between doing the same to the homosexual people in the name of god.



     
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  10. Talga Vasternich

    Talga Vasternich Diabloii.Net Member

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    Then you understand it is not private insurance companies, right?

    "Didn't cost tax money"??? It has always been a payroll tax.

    Also, due to population growth and the skyrocketing cost of medical care, the money the elderly paid into the system is long gone. It is workers today who fund the program through their taxes.

    ...and have to exist in conditions that are both painful and degrading until they do die.
    Wishing death on old people is not nearly the same as allowing the terminally ill to have their wish to end their miserable, painful existance respected.

    Also, when have I ever mentioned God in any of my posts? I have kept my religious beliefs to myself, unlike some.



     
  11. buttershug

    buttershug Diabloii.Net Member

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    Well that was until your post.
    Now he'll have an ego.

    What if it's irrational but not a decision?
    What if people kill themselves because they happen to have a chemical imbalance that makes them depressed?



     
  12. Johnny

    Johnny Banned

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    Yet you still find more than enough room for a "kill off the old people" program.

    Deaths a *****

    We have more important to worry about than the few people who wish to die early.

    Right idea in theory. Doesnt work in reality.



     
  13. Talga Vasternich

    Talga Vasternich Diabloii.Net Member

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    Wishing death on old people is not nearly the same as allowing the terminally ill to have their wish to end their miserable, painful existance respected.

    Also, when have I ever mentioned God in any of my posts? I have kept my religious beliefs to myself, unlike some.
    I get a laugh when one of your arguments is shown to be bull and you then change what you were saying. More specifically, you change what someone else was saying.

    Fixed it for you. Don't talk for everyone.
    For someone who is terminally ill and in constant pain, that is their reality and nothing is more important.



     
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    Euthanasia.

    Dondrei, stop slacking, you spelling nazi you.



     
  15. Johnny

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    Yes its all very dramatic for you Im sure.


    Yeah and one person in pain because no one will pay for the surgery he needs so he can get better. Thats his world. Thats not important right? No, lets spend money on killing people, thats important. geeze you really get a hard on for this killing people thing.



     
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    It's not just about committing suicide, it's about how you wish to do it.

    If it can be proven, then yes.



     
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    Tell me Bagar, when that fentanyl/morphine cocktail no longer works on the final stage, terminally-ill cancer patients; when their reps and BP are dangerously low; when they scream-out in pain and agony; when they want to die ... do you give them peace? Do you give them more?

    I have lived all of my adult life with RN's. I know it's done in hospitals. My wife isn't lying about the subject.




    Regards,

    Llad



     
  18. buttershug

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    The theory is that only people who are capable of deciding will be assisted in their death.
    Is that the practice where is it legal?



     
  19. WildBerry

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    Though I find your comment needlessly harsh, I can't help but wonder the same thing. In gun threads there is immediately a dozen of people yelling "slippery slope", yet now that we're actually discussing ending of a human life, such an issue is non-existant.

    Thanatos reigns supreme on these forums.



     
  20. PFSS

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    How much does a syringe of morphene cost?!

    Or a bullet?

    Seriously - If I was paralysed from the neck down I'd damn well want to be able to ask someone to take me out, and as it wouldn't hurt a bit I'd be happy for them to fire a few into my chest.


     

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