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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by llad12, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Star Dust

    Star Dust Diabloii.Net Member

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    Was a doctor, of course, but not while he was assisting suicides...

    I think you need to make the distinction between somebody who knows medicine and a medical professional. Both can be equally capable, but one is not bound by the ethics of the medical profession.

    Anyway, I think it would be common sense to know that you don't need a doctor's training to know which chemicals are lethal and effective enough for suicide. You'd need some training, for sure, but nothing close to several years of medical school.



     
  2. buttershug

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    Fixed it for ya.



     
  3. Dondrei

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    That one wasn't a nitpick, there are limits on what is put up for a vote in our system. This is potentially one of those issues.

    Constitutional Amendments are very rare, by design.



     
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    LunarSolaris:
    I wouldn't even put a medical doctor at the top of my list when it comes to people who are qualified to prepare a drug recipe that will effectively kill a human with a minimum of pain and suffering.

    How about a pharmacist who spends his entire career studying drugs and their effects on humans? Or how about the chemists and biologists who spend their entire lives in researching the effects of natural and artificial substances on human physiology?

    Also, a quick question. You feel that is so morally wrong for a medical practitioner to aid a person who wants to commit suicide that you would like to make it illegal for such an action to happen even if both people are rational, consenting parties in the act. It appears that you believe that the potential harm caused to Society by allowing such acts "trumps" the explicit violation of person freedoms involved in making assisted suicides illegal. Isn't this the same logic that some others use to advocate the banning of g*y marriages, prostitution, etc.? Don't they argue that even though such actions involve two consenting adults, the potential harm done to Society by legalizing these activities "trumps" the violation of personal freedom?
     
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    A pharmacist? You've got to be kidding me.
     
  6. buttershug

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    This is by far the most compelling argument I've seen in the thread thus far.

    I still hold to the notion that there will never be an assisted suicide law passed in the U.S. that doesn't mandate oversight by a medical doctor (or perhaps a pharmacist as KillerAim suggests).

    Dondrei... why not a pharmacist? This is a person whom has a high level of education and has been specifically trained in the field of pharmacology and would be the overall best person to know what is needed to recommend administration of any lethal "drug coctail" dose.



     
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    And oversight by a pharmacist has what to do with your opinion against assisted suicide?
     
  10. LunarSolaris

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    It has little to do with my opinion. It was a side comment to the idea of a pharmacist having oversight in leiu of a doctor.
     
  11. AeroJonesy

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    So people should have the right to walk into a doctor's office and say "I want to die today," and the doctor should be able to kill them on the spot? Or will there be some sort of psychiatric review?
     
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    There should definately be a process, yes.

    I don't think anyone disagrees with that.



     
  13. buttershug

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    ???
    Has AS been implemented anywhere else with different results?
    When a policy is being considered isn't it relevent to see the results from where it's implemented?



     
  14. TakeMyCrabs

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    There should be a process. And witnesses that the person is doing this of their ownf free will.

    Mind linking to something that says how assisted suicide went hand in hand with euthanasia in a country where Assisted suicide is legalized?


     
  15. Dondrei

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    Come on, those guys are glorified shopkeepers.

    Why do you think you need to go to a GP to get a prescription? Why not just ask the pharmacist?



     
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    I agree completely. Governments are way better at killing people.
     

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