just makin sure

OmanLord

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just makin sure

for hell meph runs 300-350% mf is ideal? after 350 it doesnt effect that much.. am i right? so it would be better to have ~ 300-350 mf and kill faster than ~520 and kill slower?
 

Vinmar

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It depends on how much slower. If it normally takes you 5 minutes and with extra MF it takes you 10, than the lower amount is better. Now in that same scenario it only took you an extra minute, I would go with the extra MF. Even though there is diminishing returns, any extra still helps.


Vinmar
 

Stormie

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OmanLord said:
for hell meph runs 300-350% mf is ideal? after 350 it doesnt effect that much.. am i right? so it would be better to have ~ 300-350 mf and kill faster than ~520 and kill slower?
Well, as you say, there are diminishing returns. Here are what some numbers in the 300-550 range translate to in terms of unique & set chances..

MF%__Unique%__Set%
300___136_____187
350___145_____205
400___153_____222
450___160_____236
500___166_____250
550___171_____261

..but only you know how much it slows you down to pile on the extra MF gear.
 

Serdash

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Think of it this way.

If you do 100 runs in 1 hour with 300 MF and 10 runs in 1 hour with 600 MF, which do you think is better?

Usually just go with what you can sacrifice without making killing too big of a deal.
 

strijdje

Diabloii.Net Member
i agree with dashy here, i think u should go for killing speed instead of big amounts of mf,

for example my barb runs mephi with 470% mf and his enigma armor under 1,5 minutes in hell.. i can increase his mf to 800-900% but it almost takes me 4 minutes.. u see the big difference? in that time i could have done 2,5 runs with 470% and only the chance is 10% better or something like that,
i should suggest u test it out for yourself but yeah, 350% is a good amount to mf, its just all about luck anywayz

robin
 

OmanLord

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thx for the help guys with 381 mf lvl 87 sorc i do runs ~ 50 seconds-1 min and with ~520 mf i do them ~ 2.5 -3 mins i think ima go with the lower mf
 

mawa

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Players setting does nothing to boss-drops, right? I suggest doing meph runs solely at players 1
 

strijdje

Diabloii.Net Member
mawa said:
Players setting does nothing to boss-drops, right? I suggest doing meph runs solely at players 1
well at mephi players1 he has a chance to drop a nul-drop, in other words, he doesnt drop any unique's or sets... from /players3 you elliminate this nul-drop IIRC...

but you should wait for Shade or RTB to answer this one :teeth:

robin

edit: :rant: damn u Z :xgrin:
 

Zarhrezz

Diabloii.Net Member
strijdje said:
well at mephi players1 he has a chance to drop a nul-drop, in other words, he doesnt drop any unique's or sets... from /players3 you elliminate this nul-drop IIRC...

but you should wait for Shade or RTB to answer this one :teeth:

robin

edit: :rant: damn u Z :xgrin:
Hey, at least you got your grammer somewhat correct...I still need to push that edit button to fix mine...

...but at least I was faster! :D
 

whomhead

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OmanLord said:
thx for the help guys with 381 mf lvl 87 sorc i do runs ~ 50 seconds-1 min and with ~520 mf i do them ~ 2.5 -3 mins i think ima go with the lower mf
what sort of gear are you wearing? it really shouldn't be that hard to have a sorc wearing > 600% MF and still do Meph runs in around a minute. what sort of skills are you using? do you have a good meph map? how about a merc? as other have said, don't sacrifice too much killing speed for MF, but at the same time, you should be able to get higher MF than that and still kill fast.
 
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