Read the 4th meaning of the word legitimate on dictionary.com;
"Authentic; genuine: a legitimate complaint."
My point with
Originally Posted by MoUsE_WiZ
A botter is not legit, as they are not a legitimate player and are infact a bot.
A duped item is not a legitimate item as it is not an item that was meant to be on the realms.
Someone who maphacks isn't using a legitimate map to play their character, or chicken isn't legit as it isn't the player exiting the game.
Was that those things are not legit, as they create an inauthenticity (sp?) in your character and not because they violate any agreement with Blizzard. I further went on to point out that the abuse of "features" that are likely to be labeled bugs later on by blizzard creates the same sort of inauthenticity as abuse of any 3rd party program.
A player can be legit by the meaning of the word I've been using. They are not being a legit player of D2, as they are not playing D2. They can* however play the game they have chosen to play in an authentic manner. A +7 skills charm, for example, could be an item that is supposed to drop in their mod. Since it is suppose to be there within the intent of the mod it fits;
Having a claimed and verifiable origin or authorship; not counterfeit or copied: an authentic medieval sword.
From dictionary.com and is therefore legit.
*Can being right up until the fabled day blizzard decides to enforce the eula.
As I said, we both clearly have two different definitions of the word legit, both are correct. I feel that my use of the word legit is the one it is most often used in the context of D2, but hey, to each his own, can we agree to disagree here?
Back to muling:
I may or may not have claimed muling to not be legit. I don't think I did, but I've said a lot of things this post. The first thing I said:
18) Are you aware Blizzard never intended either of those things to be parts of the game, and do you feel it is illegit to do them?
Yes I am aware, and I feel it is "cheating" in the sense that you aren't really playing the game it was meant to be played. You are exploiting the rule system that is in place. However you are not breaking the rules, or finding loopholes that other players may not know about to gain an advantage. It is on these to subjects that I feel the "play the game the way I see fit" arguement applies.
I asked the question, that since it was not intended (referenced by the quote where they say "the designers wanted players to make choices as to what to keep") do you feel illegit doing it? I then said, no it might be cheating yourself out of playing the game the way it should be played, but it is not something I would consider illegit.
I asked the question because:
A) I know there are people who do feel that it is illegit
and B) I wanted to make an attempt at showing that just because a person doesn't use hacks, doesn't mean there isn't going to be someone out there who doesn't feel they might be illegit.
Like I said, I don't disagree with you except on the point that it is something Blizzard intended when making the game. I'm aware they do nothing to stop it, and they do passively encourage it, that doesn't mean it was something they'd have been happier without.
Answer these questions, and I will change my stance on the issue
1) If muling IS intended, then why is it so risky for people to do who don't have a 2nd computer or friends? Blizzard could easily have implemented a CD-Key linked stash, or an account stash, or something to that extent.
2) On your arguement looting:
If the intention of the loot button was originally to allow for the saving of hardcore items, then why was the loot button originally also in softcore?
Actually I'm not going to bother responding again on the issue of muling, I'm not trying to debate if it is or is not legit, just if it was or was not intended to be in the game (not expected, but intended). If it was not intended, I'm aware that there are people who are not me would argue it to be not legit, but since those people aren't me I'm not going to argue that. Since unless you or I or someone else worked on the design team there is no way to definitively answer the question as to what was intended.
