Jewlelers Greater Talons of Quickness

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Jaquiezz

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Do every one a favor, and DO NOT SELL THESE. If a duper gets his hands on these claws and knows their true power, these claws will no longer be one of the sexiest things in the game. So every one who has these, take them to your grave (or give them to me...).

You got very lucky shopping these, I did thousands of runs and never got anything close
 
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MaLiC

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Well while shopping for some trap claws I came across a Jeweler's Scissor Quhab of Quickness. Is this thing worth keeping?
 
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mmmpld

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I wouldn't think so, the main reason people want this claw is for a bearsin to hit a 2 frame attack, which can only be done with a -30wsm claw with 40ias and 3os. Scissors Quhabs have a wsm of 0, so aren't quick enough to hit 2 frames.

There may be other uses for it though.
 
crawlingdeadman

crawlingdeadman

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Jaquiezz said:
Do every one a favor, and DO NOT SELL THESE. If a duper gets his hands on these claws and knows their true power, these claws will no longer be one of the sexiest things in the game. So every one who has these, take them to your grave (or give them to me...).

You got very lucky shopping these, I did thousands of runs and never got anything close
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1) you can trade with someone who'll take care to keep them or not trade to an unreliable person.
2) if a duper wanted a pair they'd have them already
3) can you really say that someone duping a single item for a niche build will affect anything?



 
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Jaquiezz

Diabloii.Net Member
1. How can you possibly know who they will trade it to if they decide to? Sorry, any one would sell those to some one who would pay well for em, i.e. a duper.
2. Dupers are morons. Thats why they dupe. There probably are duped ones of theres out there, they just haven't gotten big. Realize the build isn't well known on a site like JSP, where the douches trade.
3. Yes, I can. It will destroy that build, and this happens to be one of the most unique and rarest builds around, I would hate to see pubs running around with duped claws and ruining it. Part of why this build is sweet is the rarity of the claw, so those who are either diligent or very lucky can build this.
 
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Smithenator

Diabloii.Net Member
1. If anyone will sell it to someone that would pay well for it (i.e, me) then why did he not sell it to me?

2. Dupers dupe because they want the best things without alot of effort into the money making stage of d2. Also, more people trade on jsp then any other d2 forum I know of, including the best of nearly every class out there. There have been several of these claws posted on jsp, and the vast majority of people knew what it was for.

3. The bear sin is honestly not a terribly viable pvp or pvm build, extremely low damage and no block made sure of that. So why would a pub (someone with little skill) be playing an extremely difficult build?
 
crawlingdeadman

crawlingdeadman

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hey, i just remember sera offering a ton for these for months (on all the sites including jayesspee) and no one doubted that she'd use em and not be duping them. this isnt jsp and i'd trust a reasonably well known trader here to do as i requested and not retrade them. if i personally wanted to make this build would one of you trade it to me knowing i'm not going to go out and dupe them?

you almost make this sound like a build that doesnt use dupes when you at the very least HAVE to have a beast at the very least and then how much more on top of that to make it "good". off the wall builds are cool and not as common, but they do require more oopf from gear.

dupers arent morons. they do a moronic thing, but that doesnt make them any less smart than you or i. i dont condone it, but i'm not blind to the fact that a lot of them know what they're about.
 
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Jaquiezz

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She might not dupe them, but down the line when she trades them they could very well fall into the hands of dupers.

I'm not 100% legit myself, I don't mind using duped runes, simply because when blizzard made these rw's they knew that the runes would be duped, otherwise it would be impossible.

I don't see how dupers aren't morons. They pretty much ruin the game for their own gain. While I do very much like my enigma and such, its sort of pathetic that playing the game how it was meant to be played, legit, makes you completely underpowered, weak, and just cannon fodder.
 
crawlingdeadman

crawlingdeadman

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you're contradicting yourself and have no ground to stand on. you hate dupes but use them, condem dupers but use their wares. quit being a hypocrit and either play with what you find (you can play without hrs you know) or be silent on the dupe issue.

a dupe is a dupe is a dupe. if you use them you cannot say word one against them.

ps. again, you can trade something here to a respectable trader and expect them to respect your wishes.
 
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Smithenator

Diabloii.Net Member
Vouch crawlingdeadman, without dupers there is no way in hell you would own more than 1 hr, if any at all. Dupers, dont "ruin the game" they make it easier for people with less time on their hands to make effective chars. Stupid dupers ruin the game, the ones that massively dupe imperfect items and sell them as legit, perm items.
 
crawlingdeadman

crawlingdeadman

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meh that's not what i was saying at all. i dont advocate it even to 'make it easier' i just dont wax poetic about something being ruined by duping when i use hrs that are duped.
 
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Smithenator

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I realize thats not what you were saying, thats just my take on people+duping in general, probably should have made it 2 paragraphs ^^
 
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Jaquiezz

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How is that contradicting myself? Dupers did ruin this game. Blizzard made insane runewords like LW knowing that the only way to make it was using duped runes. Now, in order to kill at a decent rate, or have any chance in PvP, you have to use duped runes, and probably some other dupes.

You don't have time to play a game? wtf are you talking about? The people who dupe and use dupes don't use them to 'save time', they do it to be overpowered and make money. Time does not affect how you choose to play this game...
 
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Smithenator

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When I say that dupers dupe to save time, I mean so they dont need to spend endless hours mfing to acquire the gear they could just lag into existence.
 
NewForumBloke

NewForumBloke

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I havent gotten hold of or used a single hr yet this season and i can manage this game just fine. Paladins dont need enigma for duels, the dangerous ones are the ones who run around. If a BvC didnt have a enimga, everyone would prolly go back to the speeder barbs of the ol' days or classic.

Hr's are indeed great, and do make things easier. BUT. Hr's are not necessary in order to play the game, pvm or pvp wise. They are just something there that now most of us are taking for granted. If Hr's were needed to make this game fun, why do people play classic still?

-BLoke :smug:

PS. Looks like this weekend nm anya is going to be my friend for a few hours hehe, i want in on some of these secky claws :thumbsup:
 
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partytimeninja

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Anyone who has played single-player, on players8, or even at the beginning of a ladder season, knows that it is entirely possible to beat this game (pretty easily, too) with gear you find. High runes are not even close to necessary to building a relatively powerful character.
 
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