Javazon opinion needed

WhiteAlien

Banned
Javazon opinion needed

Hi,

I got little bored so decide to make javazon. Also I find Amazons the most sexiest chars and D2. Stfu who don't think like me :smiley:

Now question. I need her generally for PvM, to do some cow runs or CS runs using lightning Fury mostly. The classical build would be titans, coh/enigma, SS/Pheonix/Spirit tgods, griffon and Infinity merc. But I noticed that ligthning Fury deals also physical damage! So the question is what you think guys of going max physical damage possible?

The gear could be a little different. Something like change Enigma for Forty, Stormshield for Pheonix, jewellery take Highlords and boots Gores, for merc take might aura with pride. In inventory put some maxdmg sc. Could it work better than classical build? Also I got nice eth titans 193ed not uped yet, so there are potentials.

Build would have over +1000%ed from items and auras
~70% CS
~45% DS
~15% CB
and 70% or 100% pierce
:grin:

cheers, Whitealien
 

slayer37

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Javazon opinion needed

Hmmm... a physical LF build. Let's see... good damage + ranged w/ pierce + ITD... looks good in paper.
 

Widget

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Re: Javazon opinion needed

I doubt your killing speed would top a lightning zon's with griffons and gcs, just because the traditional lf build is so formidable. You'd still have a lot of success, and you would tear through physical immunes without having to wait for your merc. It'd be fun to go outside the box a little, although i doubt you'd ever be successful as the traditional lf build
 

thefranklin

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Re: Javazon opinion needed

I would not advise using phoenix, the ctc will interrupt your jav tossing. I do advise using fort over enigma, but thats my preference because amazons with enigma always felt noobish. If you are the one teleing to cs maybe you can't get rid of it, but in cows fort >> enigma. The extra physical damage really helps out with mana leech.

Testing would be needed to figure out if pride would be better for merc for infinity, but I would imagine infinity would win that because it almost doubles damage against non-immunes.
 

Quakin

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Re: Javazon opinion needed

If you want to make a a zon that does good physical dmg why are you making a lightning zon? It would be much more practical to just stick with a bowzon. That's just my opinion. Another GREAT zon build is the frost maiden, using the runeword ICE in a bow, these babies can clear out cows no problem... not to mention how much fun and unique they are.

I would not advise using phoenix, the ctc will interrupt your jav tossing. I do advise using fort over enigma, but thats my preference because amazons with enigma always felt noobish. If you are the one teleing to cs maybe you can't get rid of it, but in cows fort >> enigma. The extra physical damage really helps out with mana leech.

The pheonix is quite useful actually, so what if it interupts your attack here and there, the other mods are so great that they nullify the cons. And umm am I missing something here? Why are the only choices enigma and fort, last I checked CoH was the best javazon armor.
 

thefranklin

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Re: Javazon opinion needed

About phoenix, I never said it wasn't useful. I do not think the pros overwhelm the cons, especially since there is also spirit or a faceted shield for a choice. The 400ed does nothing for you when you take a .4s break from attacking.

If you were rich enough it would make a great weapon switch for the redemption.

Quakin said:
Why are the only choices enigma and fort, last I checked CoH was the best javazon armor.
Umm, because the OP mentioned using fort over enigma, and it was said they were differentiating from the "classical javazon". Last I checked, that was what the thread was about. And CoH does nothing for you in cows that a little old peace wouldn't do. Heck, treachery could be better (depending on gear and your ias breakpoint situation), and having fade is just too cool.
 

KremBanan

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Re: Javazon opinion needed

Just a sidenote here, to the people that doesnt think Enigma has anything to offer in cows. +2 skills and 45 FRW is great for a Java in cows. If you wanna do cowruns very quickly, you will want alot of FRW. And Enigma is the only armor that offers those two mods.
 

WhiteAlien

Banned
Re: Javazon opinion needed

Well nice to see other people thoughts.

I have chosen to go middle way for the moment. My gear right now is Enigma, Griffon's, Phoenix, Titans, Rings (raven & rare str/dex/Res/ml), Mara's and Gore's o_O. Merc Might with Infinity.
I don't have any skiller, but I can do CS runs alone in 8pl game quite fast. Need to count only for 2-3 merc resurrections. Dam IM!

Damagevise Fury does 3K light and 3K Physical and I have also 1,5k poison dmg from psn scs.

I tried to use Forty + Phoenix just to test max physical dmg possible and there is difference, but the gain of dmg does not overweights necessary of teleport and frw. So I must agree with Krembanan that frw, Tele and +2 skills really is superior to any other armor especially in CS runs when situation gets tight and you need to tele out quickly (IM, merc dead etc). It have saved my bottom many times.

As for Phoenix Redemption is just a godly skill. All those hammer palies are just jealous to me when I redeem almsot every free corps hahaha. My belt is full of FullRevj what I use only for merc from time to time. Of course the biggest withdraw from Phoenix is ctc firestorm. It have dropped me from games many times. Don't even try to use it in baalruns. :sad: Well, but nothing is perfect.

I agree a little that Forty could be better for cows and CoH could be better for CS runs and in general. But from reasonable point of view if you can Solo CS or cows in 8pl game with ease the rest could be considered as overkill.

I still should test Dream shield instead of Phoenix. 600 more light dmg, but I think I love too much Redemption :lol:

P.S. I have seen my Fury physical dmg up to 7k in baalruns with all auras active. So I guess it is close to max possible.
 
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