lucrativelyrics
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well after thinking about this and reading all the people not say jalals wins hands down it got me thinking ? hmm why would people not say jalals wins ! .. voice a respectable elder druid ( 
) didnt say right out jalals , in my mind everyones answer should have been 1 word jalals.
so in short i tested this . i used my items i plan to use for my next build
i calculated all vit , life from charms , and % of life boost from cta , werewolf oak etc.
first set up . lvl 90 druid.
my build ( dont feel like posting takes to long plus doesnt serve the points im about to make )
with shaeld cerebus.
calculated all life from vit , life per lvl from gaining lvls , had to use less life charms cause i needed more space for fhr . and finally life from charms.
for testing sake for both set ups we will use 65 % from bo, and lvl 40 were/lycan. which ends up to be 240 %.
we will use round numbers so say our life b4 shifting is 1000. ( while wearing cerebus)
so 65 from bo+240lycan+and 155 from oak =460 %
1000 X4.6 =4600+original life = 5600 total life while shifted.
now jalals
through same process using my imaginary build our base life b4 shifting and wearing jalals ( with a 7 fhr jewel ) base life b4 shifting = 1100
i calculated extra 20 str from jalals = stats to otherwise place in vit 20 x2 ( each druid point in vit = 2 life )= 40 life , plus no need for the extra fhr meaning i can use 3 more small vitas for adding a total of 60 life. so everyone together 40+60 = 100 ,( sry some comic relief for having to listen to me babble).
so again base life 1100.
take 65 % from bo + 240 from lycan + 165 from oak ( jalals has 2 to all druid) =470 %
1100 x4.7= 5170 + 1100 =6270 life while shifted.
so lets recap -
shaeld cerebus= 5600 life while shifted
my 40ed/7fhr jeweled jalals= 6270 life while shifted.
lets expand more ..
cerebus you gain a possible ( if perf) 100 % atr gain , and a monstrous 33 % open wounds.abit higher dmg ( more points in str, probably not worth mentioning)
jalals you get a total of 670 more life in this scenerio. you get 30 res,more charm flexiblity ( if you dont want to use life charms you can use atr or dmg .
now i definately take back jalals runs all . for a build like fury i would use jalals , since with high fury and werewolf you already have massive atr boost and 20 % on jalals isnt that bad. 30 res allows you to take elemental dmg dealers better.
for fireclaws/rabies / pure rabies i would use cerebus , since id gladly give up 670 life for that extra atr for these sometimes atr lacking builds. then again these builds lack life sometimes hehe . open wounds is great
to talk about open wounds 50 % open wounds is all i feel you need with any wolf to be effective .. take any druid build and we are attacking pretty fast . 50 % ( i have tested ) can eat people alive . LUCRATIVE WILL MORE DO BETTER ? OR IS IT A WASTE ? for sure it will do better but at the same time you dont want to sacrifice to much just to pop some more open wounds in there . just with cerebus and dracs you hitting 58% which 9 out of 10 duels with this percentage it triggered.
i want to take this time to briefly add in i feel the same for deadly strike , sure the more the better but i find 50 % is really where this takes control of duels for a druid. if you can get more go ahead but i aim for around 50 % at lvl 90 with highlords and loed grizz caddy you hit 53% deadly strike approx . gores add even more so your set.
closing statement - both helms has its ups and downs but like i said in a previous post , the top 100 druids to ever play diablo cant choose for you .. you need to take pride in your guide and feel out what he really needs, try a trial build , with enough str to use both , test both , then remake with the helm you like the best , keep both for difference situations .. most of all just have fun with your build .
) didnt say right out jalals , in my mind everyones answer should have been 1 word jalals.so in short i tested this . i used my items i plan to use for my next build
i calculated all vit , life from charms , and % of life boost from cta , werewolf oak etc.
first set up . lvl 90 druid.
my build ( dont feel like posting takes to long plus doesnt serve the points im about to make )
with shaeld cerebus.
calculated all life from vit , life per lvl from gaining lvls , had to use less life charms cause i needed more space for fhr . and finally life from charms.
for testing sake for both set ups we will use 65 % from bo, and lvl 40 were/lycan. which ends up to be 240 %.
we will use round numbers so say our life b4 shifting is 1000. ( while wearing cerebus)
so 65 from bo+240lycan+and 155 from oak =460 %
1000 X4.6 =4600+original life = 5600 total life while shifted.
now jalals
through same process using my imaginary build our base life b4 shifting and wearing jalals ( with a 7 fhr jewel ) base life b4 shifting = 1100
i calculated extra 20 str from jalals = stats to otherwise place in vit 20 x2 ( each druid point in vit = 2 life )= 40 life , plus no need for the extra fhr meaning i can use 3 more small vitas for adding a total of 60 life. so everyone together 40+60 = 100 ,( sry some comic relief for having to listen to me babble).
so again base life 1100.
take 65 % from bo + 240 from lycan + 165 from oak ( jalals has 2 to all druid) =470 %
1100 x4.7= 5170 + 1100 =6270 life while shifted.
so lets recap -
shaeld cerebus= 5600 life while shifted
my 40ed/7fhr jeweled jalals= 6270 life while shifted.
lets expand more ..
cerebus you gain a possible ( if perf) 100 % atr gain , and a monstrous 33 % open wounds.abit higher dmg ( more points in str, probably not worth mentioning)
jalals you get a total of 670 more life in this scenerio. you get 30 res,more charm flexiblity ( if you dont want to use life charms you can use atr or dmg .
now i definately take back jalals runs all . for a build like fury i would use jalals , since with high fury and werewolf you already have massive atr boost and 20 % on jalals isnt that bad. 30 res allows you to take elemental dmg dealers better.
for fireclaws/rabies / pure rabies i would use cerebus , since id gladly give up 670 life for that extra atr for these sometimes atr lacking builds. then again these builds lack life sometimes hehe . open wounds is great
to talk about open wounds 50 % open wounds is all i feel you need with any wolf to be effective .. take any druid build and we are attacking pretty fast . 50 % ( i have tested ) can eat people alive . LUCRATIVE WILL MORE DO BETTER ? OR IS IT A WASTE ? for sure it will do better but at the same time you dont want to sacrifice to much just to pop some more open wounds in there . just with cerebus and dracs you hitting 58% which 9 out of 10 duels with this percentage it triggered.
i want to take this time to briefly add in i feel the same for deadly strike , sure the more the better but i find 50 % is really where this takes control of duels for a druid. if you can get more go ahead but i aim for around 50 % at lvl 90 with highlords and loed grizz caddy you hit 53% deadly strike approx . gores add even more so your set
.closing statement - both helms has its ups and downs but like i said in a previous post , the top 100 druids to ever play diablo cant choose for you .. you need to take pride in your guide and feel out what he really needs, try a trial build , with enough str to use both , test both , then remake with the helm you like the best , keep both for difference situations .. most of all just have fun with your build .
