I've just about given up on pvp. (BvC Need Advice)

Neuroff

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He was talking about pure fohers. And why would you want to have a duel that lasts for 10 minutes with your barb having to go pure bow.
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Neuroff said:
He was talking about pure fohers. And why would you want to have a duel that lasts for 10 minutes with your barb having to go pure bow.
"Pure bow"? That's just ridiculous. Most fohers get all stupid when they see their damage does barely hurt, so that allows you to get some lucky whirls in. And yes, this style works. I use it on my barb, not yet been beaten by a foher.

As for other possible setups, masses of 20/11s and treachery.
 

Neuroff

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Ok, so if an foher doesn't get stupid what are you gonna do? Stand there and let it kill you? If you use an enigma the duel is over in 2 seconds.
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Neuroff said:
Ok, so if an foher doesn't get stupid what are you gonna do? Stand there and let it kill you? If you use an enigma the duel is over in 2 seconds.
Then I will use Guided arrows, as even they do more damage than the Foh.
And there rarely are any fohers in pubs anymore. If there are, triwhirling kills them quickly.
 

Neuroff

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Ce Olba said:
Then I will use Guided arrows, as even they do more damage than the Foh.
And there rarely are any fohers in pubs anymore. If there are, triwhirling kills them quickly.
And I just said a duel vs an foher will make you go pure bow. You will not get off a triwhirl without enigma.
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Neuroff said:
And I just said a duel vs an foher will make you go pure bow. You will not get off a triwhirl without enigma.
Ahem. No offense, but you seem to ignore my posts totally. I said that in _pubs_ I do not bother to switch gear when dueling fohers. That's because then I will get jumped by some other character. That's why I would use Enigma. For 1v1 however, I would use my 120 LR armor over Enigma. And yes, you _can_ hit fohers with whirls. Desynch anyone? And yes, I would use Enigma versus them always, if I had 2x of those 6x LR rings, but I do not.
 

Neuroff

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Where exactly did you say you don't switch gear in pubs when dueling fohers? Some random post somewhere? You also said you have 15% Max Light Res which implies that you're also using Fort. And you're going to rely on desynch to kill an foher? You can have absolutely no res and still win every time while having more hp left than trying to desynch them.
 

De4dEyE

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Ok, I was talking about having Tgods WITH stacked resist. I'm not retarded, I know having a tgods does nothing with res..
 

SicHalo

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Neuroff said:
I'm pretty sure mcm didn't fully stack res in those vids.
One of the fights no he did not stack well cuz foh was hurting him.

And yes the bow idea does work as it can draw fohers in close when they see the dmg does barely anything.

But with my setup i dont bother much with the bow cuz i carry alot of 18-20/11-10 lrs scs so this allows my mobility anyway with minimal gear change.

And no u dont want to have to change setup too much in pubs,ideally u want to wear a setup that is universal to all.

This is one of the reasons i droped that ort armour as its no good some random foh jumps u, ur having stack problems and then for the armour it costs ur mobility and ur left for pickings vs good casters.

however the ort armour is good for 1 v 1.

And no a Lo helm + the tg can get you to 15% max res not just using forti, i.e Lo Kira helm.
 

Neuroff

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I really don't see why a foher would come closer, what are they gonna do, try to smite you?

The whole point is that you can just kill them in a second using enigma instead of wasting time chipping away life with widowmaker.
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Neuroff said:
Where exactly did you say you don't switch gear in pubs when dueling fohers?
And there rarely are any fohers in pubs anymore. If there are, triwhirling kills them quickly.
Triwhirling means automatically that I use Enigma. Brains?


Some random post somewhere? You also said you have 15% Max Light Res which implies that you're also using Fort.
Sorry, I never use Fortitude versus Fohers, not enough stacked then. I keep saying 15% when talking about TGod's.

And you're going to rely on desynch to kill an foher? You can have absolutely no res and still win every time while having more hp left than trying to desynch them.
Whatever, most pub fohers are crap and that's what matters. And yes, I do beat fohers with pub setup, because they're all skilless crappies. For the better ones, it becomes a widowmaker vs foh fight, which can end either way. If I time my running correctly, I _can_ whirl the Foher. And yes, a foh at 85% resistances does at _most_ 215 damage per hit, that's not too much. 29 fohs to kill my barb that way.
 

moonlike

Banned
Ce Olba said:
Well, too bad, since I've yet to meet a foher to beat me.
easiest way to beat a pure foher is use
if ur poor res shield(i dont like it u look like bvb then :D)
or if ur richer (also harder to get) ba with 30 light res jewels i use that weapon 3 are with 15as also so i have 168 light res and 45ias(for 2nd bp)+minor mods like 76ar +etc

also advice vs fohers use unsommon nl where u see on mini map they stop or charge straight tele and try tri whirl that owns them all.U dont need tg or any abs to win just res.
 

Neuroff

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The whole point was that just by using an enigma, fohers become very easy to kill. But you keep insisting on using res armor and shooting at them with widowmaker, which does pitiful damage and only 25% or less will hit. Nobody that isn't a complete moron will just let you run at them and whirl you.
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Neuroff said:
The whole point was that just by using an enigma, fohers become very easy to kill. But you keep insisting on using res armor and shooting at them with widowmaker, which does pitiful damage and only 25% or less will hit. Nobody that isn't a complete moron will just let you run at them and whirl you.
Well, too bad, since I've yet to meet a foher to beat me.
 
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