Latest Diablo 3 News
DiabloWiki Updates
Support the site! Become a Diablo: IncGamers PAL - Remove ads and more!

it is grief good for kicksin?

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by thezerg, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. thezerg

    thezerg IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    20
    it is grief good for kicksin?

    the+dmg on grief is added to +% dmg of kicks?
    is grief weapon good to use?
     
  2. Zebby

    Zebby IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2005
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    33
    wpn ed doesnt transfer to kicks so no the damage from grief doesnt effect kicks :grin:
     
  3. thezerg

    thezerg IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    20
    is not ed is +dmg


    witch is the best weapon for kicks?
     
  4. HappyAssassin

    HappyAssassin IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2005
    Messages:
    1,314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    It doesnt transfer. Tested and confirmed. So good weapons for a Kicker are:

    Last Wish
    Death
    Fleshripper
    Death's Web
    Doom
    Stormlash
    Beast
    Ribcracker (major style points)
     
  5. wizAdept

    wizAdept IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2005
    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    120
    CB oriented weapons work well in pvm, likewise most pvp weapons don't work well in pvm. That should be noted to anyone new to building kicksins. Jah is usually ideal socketing for pure pvm builds in weapon if there is an open slot.

    PvM weapons:
    Stormlash
    Last Wish phase
    Azurewrath (pi killer)
    Crescent moon phase
    Fleshripper
    Kingslayer phase
    Beast warspike
    Doom warspike
    Anything else with cb will work as well (ribcracker, death, ect.)

    PvP weapons get complicated depending on your opponent, keep extra weapons in stash, Im not going to name all viable pvp weapons since what is viable depends on what types of opponents you are going to face, my list of priority weapons for pvp kicksins to have:
    Um'd death's web
    Um'd wizardspike
    Um'd fleshripper
    3venom runic fury
    3 venom runic malice (if you can support replenish in setup)
    Jade talon (offhand claw)
     
  6. remsy

    remsy Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    People really use wizspike in duels?
    Fade is more than good enough against sorcs.
    Only prob is when they initially come in using an infinity merc
     
  7. wizAdept

    wizAdept IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2005
    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    120
    Yes wizardspike pwns.
    It has multiple applications, while not a good weapon vs barbs and smiters, I find myself on wizardspike a lot particularly vs druids, zons or cold sorcs.
    Also it does good for playing support in 2v2 on a kicksin (if you are paired with a high damage teammate such as a bvc or winddruid)
    The main advantage is can use wizardspike to get 102fcr/ss without sacrificing any other gear. (up from 65+ fcr that a pvp kicksin should have without weapon slot)
    A 174fcr setup is also possible on wizardspike but that has it's own series of problems.
    Also stacking vs blizz sorcs I prefer wizardspike/ss to c/c stack, I do like c/c vs infinity sorcs more though. (there are different ways to stack res)

    All in all Um'd wizardspike is just a pimp weapon to have access to on a kicksin, not good for every duel, definetly good for many others, imo should be in every kicksin's stash.
     
  8. HappyAssassin

    HappyAssassin IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2005
    Messages:
    1,314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    I think I'll shut up and stick to WWsins. :smiley:
     
  9. mclarke

    mclarke IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    dont back out so easily, ALL of my chars have absolutely no problems with ww sin in duels, what does occasionally get me is duelling something there isnt much of, a kicksin would come as a complete surprise to a few of my chars (my bvc would just laugh though and clip u 2 death with his range 5 gpa, but vs auradin? o_O, might even kill him if u can get me by surprise especially with traps)

    Currently in middle of my own kicksin, all u need is decent ias bp and stacked resist vs sorcs, my kicksin will probably 1 hit kill 70% of sorcs (yes even es ones) cos forti = ouch, dump beast/lw on her as well for some extra ias and dmg use traps 2 keep them still ( i reccomend wake of fire, fires faster) dragon flight in, then dt them 2 death.

    For decent kicksin what u need is:
    Decent damage (forti reccomended with ELITE boots, beast + lw = optional)
    Decent DR (for vs barbs + palas, i intend 2 kill smiters with a kicksin): storm + dungos/string
    Decent resist: (wizardspike in stash (shael'd should do) stormshield adding main resist, fade if necessary)
    Ias (gloves and fast weapon, mb amu)
    FCR (65 pretty much necessary, 10+ on amu, 0 or 20 on helm (or 25 from griffon) max of 20 on rings, 20 on gloves, 20 on belt as a clue where to get some)

    skills:
    20 df
    20 dt
    20 mb
    20 wof/other trap

    u can work out the rest surely :)
     
  10. Arbedark

    Arbedark IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2003
    Messages:
    2,569
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    Sorry, but I had to post here.

    That is an absolutely awful Kick setup. You won't 1 Hit Kill sorc's with that...at least anyone who has ANY idea of what to do...

    Forit = a totally LOL armour for a Kicksin in PvP.

    If you can't get and use an Eni efficiently, don't bother with a kicksin.

    After my own testing on a Kicker: LW = big nono for PvP. For PvM it's fine though.

    20 in WoF without synergies? WHY? The damage will be useless. If you aren't going hybrid, leave it at 1 pt base and spend the points somewhere actually useful.

    20 DF = Massive waste...
    20 DT just shows that you don't know what you are doing...

    4 Kicks maximum for a PvP sin please...

    20 MB might be the only sensible thing you've suggested. At least in a Non-Hybrid kicker...

    You intend to kill smiters with a pure kicker? Good luck...since it is basically impossible unless they are an utter 'tard...
     

Share This Page