eh no, wrong way. In your example Finland get's to play the role of the islamist 3rd world country.
Why then, do you not want to discuss more numbers?
I'd like give them the benefits of the doubt and think that they have a legit reason to do so rather than just being a bunch of backward Neanderthals trying to provoke a civilized nation.
On what grounds, pray tell? That they haven't killed enough Americans in their quest for jihadist jollies?
"Palestine" is genocide disguised as a culture. It didn't even exist; at best it was a province of Syria inhabited primarily by Jews and Christians.
Of course - the more dead, the better as far as they're concerned. There's a reason Egypt machine-gunned the supposed civilians trying to flee across the border at the start of the hostilities... only Damascus is willing to host these creatures.
True, of course there would be consequenses. I didn't say that Israel should do nothing about the matter. It just feels like overkilling right now.
Yes these numbers are true I believe. I just wanted to point out the fact that maybe Israel is over reacting.
Unfortunately for many, Israel does not adhere to proportionate responses.
Advocating genocide won't win you many converts.
Howso? When Israel withdrew from Gaza, attacks on it increased 500 fold. Hamas deliberately and forcibly endangers its own host population by burying its munitions in apartment complexes, its command and control centers in mosques, and fighting out of hospitals disguised as doctors and medics. Over 400 Israelis have died in the past 5 years because of the incessant attacks, but hey, who gives a feck about hundreds of dead J00z? A good start, yes?
Yes, I know that. I just don't see any other way to solve the current situation there. It surely is a shame.
You said that, not me. You are right about Hamas hiding within civilian population thus causing more casualities. As listed here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Palestinian_conflict#Casualties it's quite easy to see that there are more casualities within Palestine people.
Heck yes. The entire world was sympathetic to the united states after 9/11. The sins of the past where blown away. Leaders from all over the world where coming to pay their condolences.
You're a bigger man than me, I would've totally returned the "good start" strawman to the sender.
Considering the poster and his source, are you really surprised?
Oh, Palestine existed ever since the British created it; I'm not trying to pretend otherwise. I'm just sneering at the assorted canards like the "right of return", as well as the fact that the "casualties" referred to include the terrorists. One might wonder why "terrorist" is inseparable from "citizen" in Gaza and the West Bank...
Yet you're still the one who manages to reach Godwin's Law first. Well done, oh Progressive one. :wave:
I imagine there are not that many Fins in Sweden right now. If the Finnish decided that they would start depositing their people in Sweden, by force where needed and then later establish a Finnish army in what used to be Sweden to push the Swedes out of huge tracts of their former country into ghettos where every aspect of their life was controled by the Fins... if the Fins did something like that then I guess it would be pretty unreasonable for the Swedes to fire a few rockets into what used to be Sweden.
Getting away from the emotion a bit - couldn't you also say that in Israel it is hard to seperate Civilian from Soldier given the military service all Jewish Israelis take part in and the large reserve army. And in Gaza Hamas is the government and it's members are it's Army. And they go home to their families each night, which is apparently 'hiding amoung civilians' - and the Israeli soldiers/reservists go home to their families each night too, which is aparently 'being a civilian'.Jmerv said:
It doesn't surprise me that you missed the irony.
I don't understand. You want Israel to fire rockets indiscriminately at population areas in Gaza instead of using missiles to target terrorists? What good does that do us? We don't go around trying to kill as many civilians as possible. Wouldn't it just be easier to carpet bomb Gaza or poison their water supply or cut off the money the Israeli government continues to give them?
That depends on who's defining the terrorist. For example, I'm sure there are sources to whom it is tempting to count anyone who is a member of Hamas as a terrorist. This would then include their police force. However, according to international agreements, a policeman is concidered a civilian, not a combatant. I'm pretty sure the numbers are not cut and dried.
How about you don't, because it's pointless?
Uh... doesn't that support his argument?