is top ias impt for pvm zon?

[mrstack]

is top ias impt for pvm zon?

my gear is as follows
lvl 14 gmb faith
atmas
20ias kb gluvs
raven
leech ring
waterwalks, which ima try on gores or travs
nosferato belt for the ias (main question arises here)
fort armor
andys helm with ral in it

ok so the ias bp for me is 95 for top ias. I am now only at 55 which is i believe the second top bp. so hmm im considering if reaching the top bp is VERY helpful for lets say chaosing. And to reach it i would need a mav with 15ias, however if someone says reaching top ias isnt that crucial, would shifting my gear around so that i could use a razortail and still reach 50 bp be a big difference? and wut suggestions for gear switches for optimal results?
thx for ne help

 

[crawlingdeadman]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

not anymore. apparently x/2 strafe is a myth and the tops is x/3.

 

[KremBanan]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

The 55bp is more than enough imo. Because this way, you will be able to use Razortail and Atma amulet.

Gloves 20ias
Helm 35ias (just put a jewel in the Andys)

 

[AnimeCraze]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

not anymore. apparently x/2 strafe is a myth and the tops is y/3.

Fixed that for you. For multi and guided speed it is still very important to have the fastest breakpoint, unless you use strafe and only strafe.

Edit: Can somebody point me to a test of the strafe bug that does NOT use CtC spells? CtC spell tests are unconvincing as CtC might have funny influence. What I mean is, I would be convinced only if I have seen a damage based test.

 

[mrstack]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

well i use max multi, max ga, 1pt strafe (much more with gear)
so top bp is really impt for pvm? not really concerned with duel

 

[AnimeCraze]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Think about it this way, reaching a breakpoint increases damage by at least 10% (and even more when your are on the top end). If you need to sacrifice a lot more than 10% to reach it, don't. If you don't have to sacrifice that, then do it.

I would not go slower than 8 frames, though (max is 7).

 

[NASE]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Don't go for 7fpa. There are other things to have that will probably serve you better for chaos. Atma, loh with giant skull for knockback, razortails...

 

[Virility]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

No it is not. It is important to have "some" IAS. Your threshold will vary from mine. There are trade offs in gear to achieve a "number".

I would encourage you to play using your favorite attack/skill combination at various IAS numbers and make up your own mind.

 

[DeuceTrey]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

How do you know how much ias is needed to reach a certain breakpoint?

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=325914

 

[stephan]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Edit: Can somebody point me to a test of the strafe bug that does NOT use CtC spells? CtC spell tests are unconvincing as CtC might have funny influence. What I mean is, I would be convinced only if I have seen a damage based test.

Since there is only one person who really did the testing obviously not. But not being able to move after finished strafing on screen is pretty convincing as well. And where does your assertion come from in the first place?

 

[AnimeCraze]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

And where does your assertion come from in the first place?

It's not an assertion. I simply want to remove any possible factors that can influence testing.

The reason I had that idea was hearing about things like CtC druid firestorm slowing down smite. While it might not happen with a non-timered spell, it is always safer to test without it.

 

[slayer37]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

not anymore. apparently x/2 strafe is a myth and the tops is x/3.

Can someone please provide the link where x/2 strafe myth is discussed? I used search with "strafe+myth" with no luck. "Strafe 9/2" search gave me too many links. The closest I got with strafe myth is the one discussed by Kijya about 7/2 strafe myth but so far I haven't found x/3 strafe being fastest thread.

Thanks.

 

[crawlingdeadman]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

pm sent. i've asked dacar if we could link it directly, but i havent heard back yet. it's important, but it's to a competing site so...

 

[slayer37]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Wow. I've read through the whole thing. Still speechless. All this time we've been kidding ourselves with speed.

 

[AnimeCraze]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Simple solution: Go go multi.

Honestly, if it is true, that's a rather big bug...... How did that even happen? (My finger points to poor coding practices)

 

[NASE]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

So the testing has been verified as valid? So I can rethink my build.
That sucks - all I need is a 15 ias/30 lightning res or lose an other 30% lightning res, it's going to be hard choise.

P.S. Someone should rewrite the guides - or atleast make it clear the everyone knows about it.

 

[slayer37]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

Multi just got even better. This x/3 strafe bug blows strafe out of the water in strafe vs multi debate. It's a good thing my latest mat is a GA/multi burizon or I would have deleted her right away.

 

[Nimbostratus]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

What's with all the sorta "strafe sucks" comments now? It didn't just suddenly become less effective. Everyone's been using it without noticing the bug for this long...

 

[slayer37]

Re: is top ias impt for pvm zon?

It didn't just suddenly become less effective.

You are right. Strafers have been owning with this bug.

IMO, the only part that "sucks" is everyone using equipment to be at x/2 (optimal strafe speed), some sacrificing other important mods, and then end up being at x/3 anyway. It still is effective though if a little slow now that we know.