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Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by beau_nidle, Mar 20, 2004.

  1. beau_nidle

    beau_nidle IncGamers Member

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    Is this legit

    I got this in a trade (not going to mention any names) and was wondering whether it is legit or not. The ilvl off 99 worried me a bit.

    Wisp Projector
    Ring
    Required Level: 76
    Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
    Item Level: 99
    Fingerprint: 0x6abdc29e
    20% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    20% Lightning Absorb
    10% Chance to cast Level 16 Lightning on striking
    Level 5 Heart of Wolverine (13/13 Charges)
    Level 7 Spirit of Barbs (11/11 Charges)
    Level 2 Oak Sage (15/15 Charges)
     
  2. Zarhrezz

    Zarhrezz IncGamers Member

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    Baal's level 99 in 1.10, no?
     
  3. beau_nidle

    beau_nidle IncGamers Member

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    Am not very good with ilvl's was just a bit concerned!!
     
  4. factotum

    factotum IncGamers Member

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    Yep, Hell Baal is Mlvl 99 and therefore any item dropped by him would also be level 99.

    So, with that out of the way, it comes back down to the usual question: do you trust the person you traded this item from?
     
  5. SnakeEye85

    SnakeEye85 IncGamers Member

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    seems legit
     
  6. beau_nidle

    beau_nidle IncGamers Member

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    Cheers all
     
  7. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo IncGamers Member

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    Whoa - hold it there!

    That item is absolutely NOT legit. It's a dupe from the downloaded item pack.

    beau_nidle, I'd like to know who traded that to you. Please PM me.
     
  8. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    yea, ti looked very suspicious to me, perfect stats and ilvl 99. have you run that fingerprint through the dupe detector AE?
    i presume it is hacked, if someone traded it to you, then they need a banning...
     
  9. Slartibartfast

    Slartibartfast IncGamers Member

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    Not that i don't believe you or something, but how can u tell it (or any other item for that matter) is a dupe? Isn't it possible someone got lucky and got it perfect from baal? ok chances are not good of course but still...
    i'm just curious how you can tell an item is a dupe i know you can see it by the fingerprint but you'll need the original too don't you?
     
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    LprMan IncGamers Member

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    If I remember correctly, AE made a list of those items in that downloadable pack (and their fingerprints too)

    So if you have that list it is easy to check that, you don't need the actual items
     
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    Kool69 IncGamers Member

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    Well I personally downloaded the pack for a whiel too trying out items and such, but trust me that Wisp is definately from it. I would check the id keys but the pack has been deletede frm my computer. But trust AlterEgo, of anyone here he would definately know if its fake.
     
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    Slartibartfast IncGamers Member

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    as i said.. its not that i don't belive him or anyone else.. i'm just curious, also tried to figure out how that dupe detector in atma worked but i couldn't figure it out (i'm such an incredible computer noob ^^ ) or do you actually need a dupe for that detector to do something?
    ah well i suppose it doens't really matter to me as i don't really plan on trading items
     
  13. farting bob

    farting bob Banned

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    ATMA's dupe detector works by hakai finding out all the fingerprints from confirmed illegit items from the pack or known sites that offer downloads. the fingerprint stays the same, so if the 2 match up, its the same item, so is duped or created using a common editing program.
     
  14. NSXdreamer

    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    And someone *cough* Shivan *cough* is working on a dupe database for ATMA I think, dunno when it will (ever) come out though. :p
     
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    Notice the ilvl 99, from the items pack, the perfect stats, from the items pack. Wow, what a coincidence? I'm pretty sure it's the same fingerprint too. :grrr:

    That item pack is doing more harm then good, it was indented for the BETA only, and it works in the full game, what a load of... :rant:
     
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    factotum IncGamers Member

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    Slarti, the "fingerprint" which is attached to any item is a 32-bit number. The chances of two items having the same ID are therefore four BILLION to one against, and that's even before you take into account the item type and stats.

    For two items to have the same type, stats, level, and fingerprint? I don't even want to think what the odds against that are, but I reckon you'll collect a few million Zods while you're waiting for it to happen...
     
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    AlterEgo IncGamers Member

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    Exactly. The fingerprints are identical, so it's clearly a dupe. The person who traded this away was banned, and I'm working with beau_nidle to see if we can recover his original item.
     
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    hey AE, since the guilty party has been banned, could you tell us who they were in case any of us have been trading with them. that way we can check and see if any other duped items are floating around. i know you don't like to make these public, but since it has been determined that they were trading duped items, then i don't see it being an issue. thanks!
     
  19. Shivan

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    yup...... i can do a partial release of the ones that are ready, but i'd rather do a full one once i get rid of the 300+ corrupt items

    and trust me.... that takes time..... and is NOT fun........
     
  20. NSXdreamer

    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    Oh yes, we appritiate what you do very much! :worship:

    Many of us have summer break coming up in a month or so, so feel free to ask if you need help with the work.
     

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