Is this claw worthy of Chaos?

skoolbus

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Is this claw worthy of Chaos?

Runic Talons
One-Hand Damage: 24 to 44
Durability: 58 of 69
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 115
Required Strength: 115
Required Level: 60
Claw Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0x76ef62bc
+1 to Phoenix Strike (Assassin Only)
+3 to Venom (Assassin Only)
Socketed (3: 0 used)

+3 to venom is nice and tough to find, if I had the runes for it, should it get put in here?

how good of base item does it take for you to put runewords in? I wont even put white in a wand unless it has +3 to at least one good skill ;)
 

corax

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no. it would be if you weren't picky but i'd hang out for one with +3 dragonflight . if it was for PvP. it's easy enough to shop for a +3 shadow claw and wouldnt be that hard to get some to venom too
 

skoolbus

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corax said:
no. it would be if you weren't picky but i'd hang out for one with +3 dragonflight . if it was for PvP. it's easy enough to shop for a +3 shadow claw and wouldnt be that hard to get some to venom too
how do you shop for white items?
 

kabal

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I'd say no to chaos in that claw. You should really try to get a suwwayah or scissors suwwayah with +3 to claw mastery or something. The +3 to venom looks nice at first, but you can probably get something better to prebuff with, then switch to your chaos claw.
 

z3r0x2

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Make it in either a suwayyah or scissors suwayyah, I ended up making mine in a superior suwayyah w/ +15ed% (and +2 to BoI but thats kinda useless). They both have the best damage for a 3soc claw(and the same average damage).

I have a few 3 socket suwayyah and scissor suwayyah lying round if you are interested (can't remember what the +skills are though)
 

HBeachBabe

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kabal said:
I'd say no to chaos in that claw. You should really try to get a suwwayah or scissors suwwayah with +3 to claw mastery or something. The +3 to venom looks nice at first, but you can probably get something better to prebuff with, then switch to your chaos claw.
i believe it's not possible naturally in game to get elite claws with lvl 1 staff mods. you have to get cracked claws, and cube repair them to make them lvl 1 then use the 3 chippies recipe to make magical socketed claws with a chance at staff mods. and you need a certain level character as well... I think. The guide to altering items in game has more on this.
 

sunbearie

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necrolemming said:
As Z mentioned, you want Suwayyah/Scissors Suwayyah for highest dmg while still hitting the WW speed breakpoint.
I was told some PvPers prefer runic so that they also reach the next breakpoint for trap-casting.
 

DeathMaster

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skoolbus said:
Runic Talons
One-Hand Damage: 24 to 44
Durability: 58 of 69
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 115
Required Strength: 115
Required Level: 60
Claw Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0x76ef62bc
+1 to Phoenix Strike (Assassin Only)
+3 to Venom (Assassin Only)
Socketed (3: 0 used)

+3 to venom is nice and tough to find, if I had the runes for it, should it get put in here?

how good of base item does it take for you to put runewords in? I wont even put white in a wand unless it has +3 to at least one good skill ;)
In short, it is not worth Chaos at all. At least, as you said, you will look for good skills. I'd look for +3 CM, and some other nice skills (for the runes, don't put anything without +3/+3 claw).
 

z3r0x2

Diabloii.Net Member
Why are trap laying speeds so important? Shouldn't the higher damage take priority as WW is going to be your main attack, and traps are only a diversion? And you can use BoS to lay them quickly anyway
 

Chimaira

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I'm also a bit curious why they promoted the use of the faster less damaging claws...But I don't think a whirlwind assasin would use Burst Of Speed in a duel...not when it doesn't affect your attack speed and you have Fade at your disposal.
 

corax

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Chimaira said:
I'm also a bit curious why they promoted the use of the faster less damaging claws...But I don't think a whirlwind assasin would use Burst Of Speed in a duel...not when it doesn't affect your attack speed and you have Fade at your disposal.
use but BoS does help for
1. catching opponents
2. outrunning opponents
3. trap laying ( i think)
4. getting into range quick enough to DF flight in and whirl the blizzard n00b before she pummels you with evil ice of death
 

Uzziah

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HBeachBabe said:
i believe it's not possible naturally in game to get elite claws with lvl 1 staff mods. you have to get cracked claws, and cube repair them to make them lvl 1 then use the 3 chippies recipe to make magical socketed claws with a chance at staff mods. and you need a certain level character as well... I think. The guide to altering items in game has more on this.
It does but ilvl gets set to 1 which causes all claws including elites to have a max sockets of 2 thus you can not use this method for making chaos claws, nor venom runeword for that matter. IIRC strength is the only real runeword for +3 clawmastery claws.

My guide goes into detail about creating them and I have done it to get a +2 claw mastery claw.
 

skoolbus

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ok, thanks for the input, its just that I remembered that +3 venom claws were worth alot on Bnet, but that doesnt seem the case here. I dont think I would actually have put chaos in it because it just has +3 to one skill and like I said, I'm paranoid about using runes in non-godly items

so I should just stick with malice then?
 

jiansonz

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I just want to add that if I was playing a fighter assassin, and by some extreme luck would manage to scrape together the runes for Chaos, I would be very happy to make this runeword in any elite claw, +skills or not.
 

Fafner

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As the others say, I'd wait for a suwayaah or scissors suwayaah. As for the mod, Venom is nice as it saves a point (If using venom to PMH, otherwise not so worth it). Other skills (possible) are Dflight, DSentry, BFury. Those all would save one or more points at least the way I'm gonna building my Chaos sin.
 

Uzziah

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NSXdreamer said:
If you were to use chaos in pvm, the oskill will probably cause it to have some insane repair cost.
2 words

Blade Fury

That claw is incredible fun with blade fury. And get this there is no durability loss with blade fury.
 
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