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Is there any toughest old game you have ever played?

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  1. johnmartin01

    johnmartin01 IncGamers Member

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    Ghosts and goblins was the toughest and hardest game I have ever played with so many difficulties. Whats yours? Waiting for the replies......
     
  2. Dacar92

    Dacar92 Community, Amazon, DH Moderator & Inc Clan Officer

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    *moved from Incgamers Clan forum*

    Sorry but this is not clan related and not even D3 related so I need to move to Off Topic.

    Thanks
     
  3. Technomancer

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    Ah, thanks Dacar for bringing us some fresh meat!... er, I mean a fresh face!

    I remember Wizards & Warriors (similar to G&G) was really hard, but my classic hardest game is Shadowgate. Man, I can't count how many times I died trying to figure that damn game out! Back in the age before the internet, I got so stuck I had to just stop playing it. It wasn't until years later that found out
    you have to 'Open' a bucket instead of looking in it to get a needed item. The bucket even has a door on the side that swings open! o_O

    Other hard game I remember are The 7th Saga (a personal favorite), Gyruss, Adventures of Bayou Billy, and Amagon. Zelda 2 is pretty dang hard too, Kestegs knows all about that!

    Edit: lol, thought of another one - The Addams Family: Fester's Quest. Wha'?!!
     
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    Probably Death Trap Dungeon or Daikatana are the hardest I've ever player, but 3D games have never really been my thing. For someone who use to specialise in TBS games like Civilisation and Masters of Orion and RTS games like the Warcraft series I found Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds just about unplayable.
     
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    Son of Blagger - damn that was tricky.
     
  6. krischan

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    The Surgeon. Nobody probably knows it, an Amiga game from 1987. The name suggests it, it was a surgery emulator. I had no manual because it was, well uhm, a pirate copy (statute-barred long ago!!11!), so every action with the scalpel led to the death of the patient.

    Hmm, perhaps I forgot to anaesthetise the patient.
     
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    I actually find the original legend of Zelda much harder than LoZ 2. But that's probably mostly because of how much I've played the second one.

    I can think of a games I owned that were really tough:

    Solstice, NES, this was a fun game with a cool concept, but stupid hard. Never finished it.

    Tmnt, NES, man I loved this game, and played it a lot, but it's soooo hard! Never beat it, but got close. (I actually did beat it later with an emulator, but with save states)

    Terminator 2, SNES. I liked this game, and was good at it, but there was a spot that I could never figure out how to get past. I think it was in Sarah's house, but it's been like 15+ years since I've touched it.
     
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    anyone play Dark Souls? I played it for about 20 minutes a few years ago. I disliked the controls and decided to wait for Dark Souls 2. I have heard both of them are insanely difficult. Anyone with better experience than me can comment on these?
     
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    I almost mentioned TMNT! That's a crazy hard game to play straight through. I never owned it, just rented it, but I had TMNT 2. I played the crap out of that one and got really good at it. My... nephew-in-law?... at the time was like rage-addicted to it and always DEMANDED I play it with him cause he sucked at it. :p

    lol, it's not exactly a video game, but I tried out a RC airplane training sim a couple years back. Let's just say I lost interest in RC airplanes after that. o_O
     
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    Off the top of my head... .

    Battletoads (NES):
    Fun but frustrating beat-'em-up. There are numerous platforming bits scattered throughout the game that are outrageously difficult and require pinpoint accurate movement and perfect timing. It took weeks of practice to beat.

    Chakan: The Forever Man (Genesis):
    Hack and slash platformer. One of my all-time favorite games (love the dark fantasy theme) but holy crap is it hard!

    Street Fighter 2010 (NES):
    Sadistic platformer/shooter. Not much to say about this one - cool game but rage-inducing.

    Have a look at the DSfix and DSMfix mods for Dark Souls 1 here. The first mod will make the game look prettier (don't apply the framerate unlocker though - it makes the game unstable). The second mod attempts to improve the terrible mouse controls (with questionable success). I recommend against KB+M, however. Dark Souls plays flawlessly with an X360 controller. The default button mapping is perfect and intuitive.

    - Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 2 in every conceivable way (though frankly, Demon's Souls is better than either).

    - Difficulty: Hard but fair. The whole "zomgitsimpossible" thing is just marketing.

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    TMNT: Never really had a hard time with that one. Farm pizzas when needed and try to keep a healthy supply of projectile weapons on all four turtles. Keep Leo as healthy as possible (he's the best "general purpose" turtle) and swap to Raph or Mike for tricky platforming bits as they are expendable (captured turtles can be rescued, btw). Long-dong-Don should be saved for special situations (like the Giant Mouser boss).
     
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    I don't know that game, but you probably had the X-rated version, oght?
     
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    I have a strange feeling this is another one of those threads in which the OP will never be heard from again. :p

    One thing that complicates rating difficulty is that I played many of these games when I was quite young and not super good at games. Then, later, I went back and replayed them with emulators and internet walkthroughs, which isn't going to convey the real difficulty very well. A lot of games can be easy once you know exactly HOW to beat them (unless they're coordination stress-tests), but trying to figure them out on your own can be really hard. On a side note, my cousin was really good at games and reveled in knowing how to beat a game I didn't, even though I was 8 years younger. What a petty douchebag!

    Oh, I thought of a couple more:
    1. AD&D Heroes of the Lance: Man, that game is screwed! The controls are unintuitive and the game is super unforgiving. Later, even with savestates and a walkthrough the game was hard!!
    2. Master Chu & the Drunkard Hu: This was an unlicensed game and probably pretty rare. The game design was iffy at best, the controls were wonky, and it was brutally unforgiving. My brother-in-law played the crap out of it and managed to beat it, while I couldn't even beat the 2nd level.
     
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    Your cousin seems to be good at choosing the battleground, respectively making you choose in his favor. You probably won't ever win against him, as long as you don't improve on that topic.

    However, I see no point in winning a competitive game about which you already know that you are better then your opponent. That's just maintaining a given status quo. Improvement comes from beating him in a game at which the other one usually wins or at which the outcome is unclear. When armwrestling with your small brother, you will win, so what?

    Besides, the winner will probably get most of the bitches, but the underdogs might have better chances with the good girls, those which you can live all your life with.

    Hmm, Heroes of the Lance, I remember the name, but not what kind of game it was, It seems it was like Hillsfar, but in Krynn, right? I didn't like Hillsfar because it didn't feel enough of how AD&D was played, so I probably didn't liked HotL as well. To my taste, the first AD&D game worth playing was Pool of Radiance, from 1988 or so. You had a map and combat, spells etc., that game was much closer to pan&paper.
     
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    This is the biggest load of rubbish I have read in a long time. What kris has forgotten here is the three golden rules of competition:

    1. Crush your enemies
    2. See them driven before you
    3. Hear the lamentation of their women

    Oh and

    4. If you have to hack god-mode to prevail ... never, EVER, tell anyone.

    Honestly, did IQs just suddenly nose-dive whilst I've been away?
     
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    You have kind of a point in that with respect to enemies, but:

    1. It's about two cousins, not enemies
    2. It depends on how many wives each of the two have
    3. It's not very satisfying if it can be achieved easily
    4. Never disturb me at being serious
    5. See 4.!!11!
     
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    Wait. Cousins, but not enemies??/??slash??

    What kind of family are you running here?
     
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    I think siblings and their children killing each others wasn't that uncommon among nobility in medieval times. For example, I heard that in the Ottoman empire, one of the first acts of a new sultan was getting his brothers killed, like a new queen of a bee hive.

    BTW, Conan had no family when he said it, he doesn't count with respect to that.
     
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    Are you going to tell Conan that? Are you really?
     
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    Of course not. I'm only giving advice without having been asked when I feel safe enough, like in the OTF.
     
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    There is nothing quite like being in the OTF.
     

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