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Discussion in 'Assassin' started by Snarlin Stef, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. Snarlin Stef

    Snarlin Stef IncGamers Member

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    is Chaos and Fury claws the hands down best WW claw combo?

    is Chaos and Fury claws the hands down best WW claw combo?

    im sorry but upgraded Eth rune bartucs seems REALLY good too... Fury costs more than Chaos to make basically for the 66% OW... is it THAT great to ahve 91 OW?

    what is the BEST "other" claw for a WW assa?

    thnx
    stef
     
  2. Las-Vegas

    Las-Vegas IncGamers Member

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    the fury claw idea is a poorly thought out one and it was never tested, nor is it near being good.

    the OW does not stack with both claws, ie 50% on one claw and 50% on the other does not = 100%, it is 50% with each claw.

    Fury (does not cost more than chaos btw, ohm cost more than jah on west) has low dmg and 1 useful mod.

    it does work, mainly because the bulk of your dmg is OW/Venom. but its not the best combo.
     
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    Ethereal tucs don't hit the last WW break for starters. You're 5% IAS off. And no , BoS doesn't help you get the last WW break.

    Also , fury has more then 1 good mod. The 20% AR and -25% def also help. Not to mention 33% DS in combination with highlord's + gore's means over 80% DS @ higher lvls with the fury claw. This will make up for the lower phys dmg in comparison to eth tucs really good. And ofcourse the 1 more frame with WW itself (Fury does hit last WW break).

    About the best other claw , it really depends on the setup. Against melee chars The Chaos + Fury is prolly 1 of the best combo's. Against elemental users you're prolly better off with a Jade Talon as 2nd claw. Although this claw doesn't hit the last WW break either , it does give you that little more resist to survive alittle longer.

    Also , you shouldn't underestemate the power of open wounds. it's dmg is quite high when you have an high enough char lvl. And the best part with high %OW is that it takes only 1 hit to drain an oponents life quite hard.
     
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    Las-Vegas IncGamers Member

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    20% AR and -25% def are helpful, but not anything that will change the outcome of most duels.

    20% is small, actually. the -12.5~% def is more useful.

    the DS is also a problem because, again, most of your dmg is not phy.

    but you have to think of the whole build.
    WW sin = low AR and hard to find res /w godly gear. (no dupe gear, its for newbs)

    you really need res all from your amulet slot, unless you wear CoH, but if you use CoH then you cant use GA unless you can get an extra 65%. its little gear conflicts like that, that plague the build.
    (btw, if you plan on switching a jade in to make up for the lost res, you still have a problem. if you're using 90 res then you are stacking res also, meaning you would need something like 290 stacked res to have 90 res to a FoH. and even then, jade is not a claw you want to be using over just about any other claws unless you really need the stacked res.)

    the testing I did with OW was basic, but it did around 500~ dmg /w venom on to a 75 res all char (OW dmg is a special kind of phy dmg with the same properties as poison that cannot be resisted, but the venom can be) at lvl 85

    thats huge.
     
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    Snarlin Stef IncGamers Member

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    assuming that you ETH rune a tux... the 20% ar and the -12.5 def mods are the same on each claw...

    NOW which is better? OW is so overpowered... also i know that OW % dont stack ... it really roles 2 chances to trigger OW... one per claw... but its still a godly mod...

    does he deadly strike make up for hte lack of dmg? assuming that you have no other deadly strike items on?

    it seems that this can be a great combo... OW owns... i just want verification before i go out and trade for JAH or Fury claw.

    vegas... you say that fury is overrated in one post.. then you say OW bonus is huge in the next.... where do you stand on the fury claw?

    thnx
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    Vegas , I was more comparing eth tucs vs fury , and fury does win thnx to the OW , DS and speed. And the DS is usefull. So what your main dmg isn't physical based. Every little bit more dmg is always good. So the DS is usefull.
     
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    Depends on your build. Jade Talon is also viable because of the plus skills and the 50 resists. 2xchaos gives another plus 1 to whirlwind. Tucs gives you the skills, and stats. Its all up to you. Do you want max resists? (Jade Talon) or you could give up deadly strike in highlords for maras and maybe wear 15 res. guardian. Or do you want the 100%OW. I think thats it unless im missing something...

    -drunken
     
  8. Las-Vegas

    Las-Vegas IncGamers Member

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    OW is good, not fury. fury is useable because it goves OW

    malice does the job better and cost 23423x less to make. theyre both (actually all 3 if you add in tux) too slow and the main reason is for the OW.

    so malice > eth tux > fury
     

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