Latest Diablo 3 News
DiabloWiki Updates
Support the site! Become a Diablo: IncGamers PAL - Remove ads and more!

Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by NickaliskTrent, May 21, 2008.

  1. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    [Note: this is purely for PvP considerations]

    I was comparing the skill points of the libby I was planning on building with the skill points of my cookiecutter hammerdin. I noticed only 1 or 2 skill differences... Libby has either resist lightning/defiance or extra points in charge rather than holyshield.

    Do the resist lightning/charge points make any difference? Or can I just tweak my hammerdin gear thereby making him an effective liberator?

    It seems he's only short a Grief PB.

    Currently lvl 93 with these Skills:
    1 Charge
    1 Smite
    1 Holy Bolt
    20 Blessed Hammer
    17 Holy Shield

    1 Prayer
    1 Cleansing
    1 Defiance
    20 Vigor

    1 Might
    20 Blessed Aim
    20 Concentration

    Using this set of gear:

    BerBer CoA
    10% FCR amulet
    Enigma
    Trang's Gloves
    Verdungo's
    WizSpike
    'Spirit' Sacred Targe 35% FCR
    10% FCR Ring
    Bul Kathos Ring
    Waterwalk Boots


    So would simply switching these gears suffice?
    Highlords Amulet
    Grief PB
    Raven Frost
    Spider
    Rare Boots
     
  2. Scudstorm

    Scudstorm IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    Concerning your cookie-cutter hammerdin gear...

    Why not Arach's instead of dungo's? It'd save 1 ring + ammy spot for better stuff...
     
  3. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    I figure the DR is more important than an extra bit of hammer damage.

    Dungo also offers nice life, and the FCR ring has massive strength that helps me use CoA.
     
  4. UberB

    UberB IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    I always thought along the same lines. More points into charge = more charge obviously, but I always took charge as a 1 point wonder with Grief and I really didn't like the idea of maxing it.


     
  5. Scudstorm

    Scudstorm IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    Even on my smiter (i.e. no maxed vigor as synergy), charge is a very strong pvp skill. I think your skill points are better spent on hammers and holy shield.
     
  6. UberB

    UberB IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    Yep, charge + grief works really well versus any non-melee character.


     
  7. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    So instead of remaking a "liberator" i should just get myself a good grief pb and play my hammerdin the same way as a liberator?
     
  8. DayDream

    DayDream IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    2,253
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    346
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    Any "pvm" hdin will work in pvp because that's how imbalanced they are :p

    But you pumped holy shield. Most,the defensive types, will pump light resist.
    You also need 1 point fanat for that smite when the charge is blocked and you'll be randomly whacking.

    Btw, there are people that prefer to pump charge as crit from highlords and grief+pumped charge = potential 1-2 hit killer to a caster.

    I just don't like that pumped holy shield.
     
  9. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    I find holy shield really good for reaching 15k def though.

    hm Do i really need light resist if I have really good stacked resists?
     
  10. DayDream

    DayDream IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    2,253
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    346
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    You'll have 85 passive resist which means you won't get one shotted by a fcer. Plus you can turn it on against fohers or against trappers and just plain charge them.

    Whatever though, it's your hdin :p
     
  11. NickaliskTrent

    NickaliskTrent Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Re: Is a liberator basically a hammerdin with grief.

    which would you recommmend on a libby? Light res or charge?
     

Share This Page