Infinity on merc/me?

[louisbhb]

Infinity on merc/me?

Hi everyone, I'm a pure lightning sorc and I have a few questions regarding the use of infinity.

In general, I use occy and spirit as main, and call to arm as a switch for boost.. and I let my merc to carry infinity. However, the conviction aura doesn't seems to be helping me to break the lightning immune. I understand that certain mobs may have really high lightning resistance so it is possible not to be able to break it, but then i've been trying it in Hell Act1 mobs and i can tell lightning immunes are still not taking my lightning dmg.. do I have to be the one to carry infinity? Or is there some aura overriding issue as i'm using the defensive merc in act2 with a holy freeze.

If it's better for me to carry it as a switch, is it worth it? (maybe when there's lightning immune mobs? is it worth to put the dex in?)

 

[lumpor]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

Well, conviction breaks immunitites, but all broken immues have very high resistance after they're broken. Infinity lowers the resistance of the immunes by 17%. So if an enemy has 110% lightning resistance, it will still have 93% resistance when you've broken it.

As you've maybe seen on the infinity, it carries passive -lightning resistance. Passive -enemy resistance doesn't work on immunes (and if your merc has it, it won't affect your spells), but once an immunity has been broken, passive -enemy resistance will work at full effectiveness. So the best way to break immunities is to have a mix of conviction/ lower resist and -enemy resistance, which is what you get if you wield infinity

Personally I think you should wield it. There is no 1-handed weapon or shield which lowers enemy lightning resistance (except crescent moon). It also allows your merc to wield something else, like an insight. The only problem is fcr. You'll have a hard time reaching the 117% breakpoint. You'll basically need

20% from magefist/trangs
20% from arachs
20% from your helm (either circlet of the magus or a griffons eye)
15 or 17% from your amulet (15% if you have griffons. Otherwise 17%)
30% from skin of the vipermagi
10% from a fcr ring

So it'll be quite hard to reach the 117% breakpoint, but once you've reached it, you'll be quite good. And who can deny the colness of a sorceress wielding a halberd?

 

[louisbhb]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

Thank you for your detail reply.. but I'm still a little confuse with merc not being able to apply both conviction and lower resist at the same time.. what's the diff between me wielding it and the merc? Is it because only the conviction aura will break the immunity and the - lightning resist will only benefit the merc? (I thought it will lower the mob's resistance either way)

And about fcr.. I'm wearing enigma and i'm depending on it for the str/vit/mana boost.. and it also has +2 to all skill.. so I think it is almost impossible for me to get to 117%.. that being said.. which stage of fcr percentage will still be reasonable? or maybe I should try to push it by using wizardspike since it has 50% fcr? Or just stick with lots of +skills.. hard to calculate the dmg this way.


I'm now wearing..
Shako
Mara
Enigma
Occy 30%/Wizard 50% + Spirit (30%? I forgot)
Magefist 20% fcr
2 sojs (I think i have a ring that has a rare 10% fcr, may switch to that)
Tal belt (switching to arachs when i reach lvl 80.. 20%)
War trav (may switch to something else when not mfing)


What do ppl usually want for griffon nowdays?

 

[Neuuubeh]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

If you have Infinity on the merc, it means that the -lightning res will only apply to his attacks.
I'd never wield it myself lol, I had it on a merc and it was good enough. You might get lucky and get a Griffons Eye (on ladder atm its like 4 Ists I believe, and is rapidly increasing in price).

I never had problems with my merc having the Infinity and me wielding my +skills shield/weapon.

 

[louisbhb]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

I just felt that my merc is not killing fast enough against those lightning immunes.. and I can't do anything beside him other than feeding him potions. Right now he has a tal mask on for some life leech and resistance cos I can't afford andariel's visage.. I may also need to get him a better armor.. in regards to wield it or not.. I do want to give it a shot because I can always switch it back to my occy + spirit when it's not immune. Maybe it will still be faster than watching my merc risking to be raped by 5 immune mobs.

 

[MoonUnit]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

I just felt that my merc is not killing fast enough against those lightning immunes.. and I can't do anything beside him other than feeding him potions. Right now he has a tal mask on for some life leech and resistance cos I can't afford andariel's visage.. I may also need to get him a better armor.. in regards to wield it or not.. I do want to give it a shot because I can always switch it back to my occy + spirit when it's not immune. Maybe it will still be faster than watching my merc risking to be raped by 5 immune mobs.

What is your merc wearing now? I think mines using a noneth (yes I was cheap) Infinity CA, Tal's mask and Eth Fortitude. Also if Tal's is your sole source of life leech, it's cut to one quarter in hell, so that 10% on tal's mask is actually more like 2-3% of damage done by the merc.

 

[Robobaby]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

I'm now wearing..
Shako
Mara
Enigma
Occy 30%/Wizard 50% + Spirit (30%? I forgot)
Magefist 20% fcr
2 sojs (I think i have a ring that has a rare 10% fcr, may switch to that)
Tal belt (switching to arachs when i reach lvl 80.. 20%)
War trav (may switch to something else when not mfing)


What do ppl usually want for griffon nowdays?

Right now he has a tal mask on for some life leech and resistance cos I can't afford andariel's visage..

Does not compute.

I appreciate that you are probably poor after spending wads on getting the rest of your gear but seriously. IF you have the means to acquire gear like that then you should have zero problems getting an andy's face.

 

[redground]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

Get a crescent moon runeword instead of the occy and a griffons eye instead of the shako, or use infinity yourself if you have the propper dex and strg. And drop that enigma, you are a sorc, you dont need it, get a Ormus Robes, CoH or fortitude.

 

[louisbhb]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

Interesting.. I was thinking I should get more +skills, so looks like getting more -lightning resist will be better off with the items you suggested redground? Maybe I will use infinity on switch and try to get griffon and Ormus Robes.. will use CoH for now. Hope the str I add to wear them will not go to waste.

What's the market like for getting andy visage, griffon and ormus? Anyone have idea of how many high runes it costs?

 

[redground]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

Interesting.. I was thinking I should get more +skills, so looks like getting more -lightning resist will be better off with the items you suggested redground? Maybe I will use infinity on switch and try to get griffon and Ormus Robes.. will use CoH for now. Hope the str I add to wear them will not go to waste.

What's the market like for getting andy visage, griffon and ormus? Anyone have idea of how many high runes it costs?

Like lumpor said, infinity only takes out 17% of light resist, the imune monsters will have at least 83% resist, so if you hit 30k dmg you will only get 5.100 dmg, or if they have 110 resist you will only hit 2100 dmg. So it doenst really matter how high your dmg gets, you need to lower their resists, that is why cold mastery is the most powerfull mastery.

Get some light facets, a crescent moon or whatever can help you. A griffons eye is almost one HR worth, arround 4 ists, on east ladder, on non ladder it can go for a LOT of hrs if the stats are good, you just need to find a good seller (i mean, someone that dont know how much a griffons is worth)

 

[lumpor]

Re: Infinity on merc/me?

I wouldn't recommend enigma even if you didn't need fcr. Doesn't have much to offer for a sorc. I still like vipermagi. You should try to not get hit with a sorc, that's the merc's job. So therefore i don't really like CoH. these opinions come from softcore btw

Also, viper has some resists.

If you have griffons, lightning facets and crescent moon, I don't recommend infinity on you. However,it will be good for now (if it has low enough reqs), and gives style points

I recommend crescent moon for a lightning sorc. +3 skills can't even compare

And make it in a broad sword/battle sword/conquest swords. Sooo much cooler than crystal swords/dimensional blades/phase blades.