Infinity and the Cold Sorc

[Geministorm]

Infinity and the Cold Sorc

I had plans to build an all cold sorc to group with my friends that would focus on Blizzard and FO/Ice Blast;

Ice Bolt: 20
Ice Blast: 20 <bind to LMB with switch to FO>
Nova: 1
Gl.Spike: 5
Blizzard: 20
FO: 15 <bind to LMB with switch to Blast>
CM: 10 <thinking +7 skills should be attainable>

Frz.Armor: 1
Shv.Armor: 1
Warmth: 1
TK: 1
TP: 1
Static Field: 1

However, there will be times I'll want to solo with this char and I was wondering if Cold Immunes can be broken with an Infinity equipped merc if I could put together a helm and armor with a combined +3 skills? Or, would the +skills items not effect the level 12 Conviction?

Level 12 Conviction = -85% resists
Level 15 Conviction = -100% resists

Any other ideas on breaking immunity?

 

[melianor]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

No, the cold immunity of almost all cold immune monsters are way to high to be broken.
Infinity is only effective with Lightning sorceresses.

 

[Geministorm]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

No, the cold immunity of almost all cold immune monsters are way to high to be broken.
Infinity is only effective with Lightning sorceresses.

So, the immunity isn't even broken by Lower Resist from a necro or Conviction on a pally? I had planned on grouping with two friends that were going to run hammerdin and necro summoner builds, but if those would be ineffective against breaking the cold immunity, I might have to re-think this and go with a CL/Orb or MeteOrb build (although I really had my heart set on a frosty sorc ).

 

[Geministorm]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

OK, came back after doing some reading.

When dealing with immunities, only 20% of the -resist applies, and the only -resists that work on immunes is Conviction and Lower Resist. Also, cold immunes tend to have higher resistance than Lightning.

Max'd Conviction is -150%, equating to -30% for immunity.
Max'd Lower Resist is ~-65 (diminishing returns), equating to -13%

All other -resists only apply after immunity is broken.

Assuming that the above stack and are not applied singularly, meaning that both sources of -resists combine to work against the same immunity pool (that's a big assumption). So, if a mob has 150% cold resist/immunity, it is *not* 120% or 137% but is instead 107% resistant (still immune). If it is true that independent sources of -resist stack then only multiple sources of Conviction/Lower Resist can break a cold immune mob.
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If a Cold Immune mob had 160% cold resist, what would a -55% resist necro, -150% resist pally, and three Infinity equipped mercs bring to the table, assuming that independent sources stack?

Necro Lower Resist: -11%
Pally Conviction: -30%
3x Infinity (-85x3/5): -51%
Total: -92%

That should be sufficient to break any imaginable cold immune mob's immunity...then CM and any other sources of -cold resist would come into play.

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

Necro Lower Resist: -11%
Pally Conviction: -30%
3x Infinity (-85x3/5): -51%
Total: -92%

Not gonna work. Highest conviction overrides others. So only one (highest) count. And only one curse at time.

That would ruin whole game if you scenario worked. But luckily it don't.

 

[-=Slaye]2=-]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

The only reason I'd use it if it were able to break cold immunity of Oblivion Knights. They're a major pest when you solo with a pure cold sorc. Even max lower resist and a max conviction effect won't remove the cold immunity of those suckers. Infinity like already said doesn't have a strong enough conviction to be of any use if you plan to go solo.

My advice is to use a might merc (NM offensive type act 2) and equip it with DR, LL, FHR, IAS and if possible all res gear. High damage weapon and lots of leech has preference over resistance gear.

 

[Geministorm]

Re: Infinity and the Cold Sorc

Not gonna work. Highest conviction overrides others. So only one (highest) count. And only one curse at time.

That would ruin whole game if you scenario worked. But luckily it don't.

So, a high Conviction (from Pally or Infinity) over-rides a Lower Resist from a Necro? I guess that means that any cold resist >129% is unbreakable.

That makes me sad, but since my original goal was to team up with my buddies, whos' builds are dangerous as is, it will be up to them to kill the cold immunes. I'll just have to limit my solo'ing to certain areas and high tail it against Cold Immunes.