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incr. speed on bvc

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Bigru, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. Bigru

    Bigru IncGamers Member

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    incr. speed on bvc

    this is an extract from blobs guide:

    "7 in increased speed after + skills is the fastest you can move while retaining 3 hit checks per ww for a side whirl.

    inc speed makes your desync whirls better

    also, there is a certain radius where whirling to the other guy is faster than teleporting and then whirling. inc speed makes that radius bigger.

    inc speed lets you hit zons and assasins alot easier

    inc speed lets you walk out of bone spirit trails after golem slow

    inc speed makes your triangle whirls faster and more desynced. alot of people have said i hack ww or something cause my triangles are whirled faster than the server can keep track of, and so i appear to stand next to them and they die; this is very useful for not getting hit while whirling."

    there it makes it look like you want 7 inc speed after all +skills, not any higher, which pretty much means you can't use a torch? is this correct? and what do "hit checks" mean?

    did he actually mean 7 base skills?

    any help on this would be appreciated? ie: how much in increased speed should i have after +skills?

    cheers

    bigru.

    EDIT:

    just checked his guide again, and it seems like he actually meant 7 base skills, and the most amount of +skills he would have on at one time (with doomz's out) is 11, so total level of 18 with 75 frw is the most he had, which he reconned was the best you can get.

    opinions please ^^
     
  2. Imbecile

    Imbecile IncGamers Member

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    5 points into Inc. Speed, with Torch and Anni.
     
  3. Clay bizzle

    Clay bizzle IncGamers Member

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    Are those 5 points assuming what kind of outside added frw?
     
  4. Ce Olba

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    The outside added FRW does not matter.

    Skill FRW adds more than item added FRW. The target point is to have 39% or 40% FRW on Increased Speed.

    5-6 base points will reach this.
     
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    Ce Olba, could you explain why 39-40 please?
     
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    Now, I cannot give you a definite answer, as I have no bloody idea of how skill FRW or any FRW works (as in does it multiply the FRW by the set percentage, and what's the starting speed (yards/second) and so on).

    Well, Blobs said that his 7 points (which btw hits exactly 40% with his gear) is the optimal speed for certain reasons:
    Threre.
     
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    Imo it would have to be 40 not 39-40 because FRW hits a new breakpoint after every 5 frw.
     
  8. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    Where did you get this information?
     
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    rubbish, there are no breakpoints.
     
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    They just didn't bother listing every single %, because sometimes the added effect to your runspeed is hardly noticeable. Could you imagine if they listed 5x as many run/walk numbers as they did? That page would get stupidly long.
     
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    My bad then.
     
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    actually its you thats more ignorant than them for making out like they are saying there are breakpoints especially when quietus already explained it an hour earlier.
    ep, jsp and here etc all are generally populated by idiots so whats your point? if you think the standard of jsp is above somewhere else then i find that hard to believe but then its your opinion and i guess you have experienced something to have it.
    dmngd - there is a formula used, thats just samples.
     
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    your amusing interpretation of my post is not my problem. i didn't even bother clicking the link so all your arguments are void.
     
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    Aha, ok it was just irrelvant crap.
    glad thats sorted.
     
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    actually knowing that you get more reliable answers in lod trading europe-1 than from ep-players is kinda relevant for a beginner. i am sure you realize this but thanks for your hilarious assumptions though.
     
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    Yup, saw it after i had another look.
     
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    and i can say the same about jsp and be equally correct/wrong.
    as already said both have idiots and i am sure both have decent people but it sounds like you have some personal reason for ep whining.
    btw i have never seen a buckler of deflection offered on ep as a godly low level shield yet (it received quite a few offers)
     
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    what makes you assume i'm fond of jsp? i thought my first post was crystal clear but no...
    problem with ep is that they dont evolve, even their top duelers are a year behind the rest of the world knowledge-wise. of course i dont hesitate to piss on their egos when given opportunity.
     

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