Immune SW?

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MonsterSlayer

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Immune SW?

After reading about SW on this forum and looking on this site:
EDIT by Naliworld: Link deleted. Links to competing sites are not allowed
I noticed that it says that a level 50 SW has the following:
Mana cost: 51.5
Cast Delay: 6 Seconds
Attack Rating: 3423
Defense: 1372
Resist lightning/cold/fire: 75%
Strenght: 500
Dexterity: 500
Hit Points: 3196
Item lvl: 116
Physical Damage Resistance: 40%
Chance to block: 50%

Now if I take Fade to level 20 and prebuff SW and afterwards prebuffs Fade and lets it use Fade so it's 50/50 or something would the SW then have:
Mana cost: 10
Duration: 708 Seconds
All Resistances: +73%
Curse lenght reduced: 89%
Physical Damage Resistance: +50%

On top providing 90% damage reduction, 89% curse length reduction, over 100% to all resist aso. making it pretty hard to beat? Plus letting it use MB with a LS damage that is as high as yours? That'd be like you could stand safe in town while your minion did you work and every time it died, you could just recast it ;)

Btw. what does item level 116 mean? And for SM at level 50 it is 171, I don't get it, does that mean they'd spawn with anni aso.?
 
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BIGeyedBUG

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Now if I take Fade to level 20 and prebuff SW and afterwards prebuffs Fade and lets it use Fade so it's 50/50 or something would the SW then have:
Mana cost: 10
Duration: 708 Seconds
All Resistances: +73%
Curse lenght reduced: 89%
Physical Damage Resistance: +50%

On top providing 90% damage reduction, 89% curse length reduction, over 100% to all resist aso. making it pretty hard to beat?
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That's right, and not counting any further resists that could spawn on equipment. I have heard recently that minions like monsters can only gain two immunities, but I don't know if it's true or not.

That'd be like you could stand safe in town while your minion did you work and every time it died, you could just recast it
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Sure, but don't expect it to accomplish much without a fair amount of patience on your part.

what does item level 116 mean? And for SM at level 50 it is 171, I don't get it, does that mean they'd spawn with anni aso.?
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It governs what level of affixes the Shadow is eligible for on its magical items, though I don't know the exact mechanics. Since Shadows can't spawn with either charms or uniques, the annihilus is pretty much out of the question. :p
 
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MonsterSlayer

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BIGeyedBUG said:
That's right, and not counting any further resists that could spawn on equipment. I have heard recently that minions like monsters can only gain two immunities, but I don't know if it's true or not.



Sure, but don't expect it to accomplish much without a fair amount of patience on your part.



It governs what level of affixes the Shadow is eligible for on its magical items, though I don't know the exact mechanics. Since Shadows can't spawn with either charms or uniques, the annihilus is pretty much out of the question. :p
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Well IG can be totally Immune :p

How much fcr does a SW have?
 
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MonsterSlayer

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Btw. how much damage can a SW obtain with Lightning sentry? And if the assa stands in town while the SW uses LS outside of town, would the LS dissapear due to the assa is in town, or stay because the caster of them (the SW) is outside of town? :)
 
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MonsterSlayer

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Umm the link deleted part I really don't get, since a link is defined as: A text you can click on to go to another Homepage. Since you couldn't click no that, how could that be a link??
 
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Naliworld

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Clickable or not, you provided a URL which users could just as easily copy into their address bar in a few seconds. That's close enough to a "link" for me.
 
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MonsterSlayer

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can the shadow warrior use all skills that the shadow has hot keyd or only assassin based skills? E.g. Teleport, Cyclone armor aso.

And what happens if the shadow warrior places some traps and dies afterwards, will the traps stay or dissapear?
 
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Naliworld

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SWarriors can only use Assassin skills, even if you have non-Assassin skills hotkeyed. Not sure on the Trap question....
 
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MonsterSlayer

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OKay thank you for your effort and thx for the answer, now I know a hotkeyd won't work eventhough the master is level 20. :-( I don't think anyone else is going to answer my questions, and since I can't find anything about this subject in the threads, I guess I'll give up on the build I had intended. :(
 
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slappy sam

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Nearly positive that the shadow master/warrior will leave the traps after they die. Also, there is a pretty simple formula to determine the level of LS, fade, etc. the shadow would have. It's something like (1/2 Level Shadow master) + (1/2 Level Your Skill) = Level of Shadow Master Skill. In this case you could get a very nice shadow master. Lets take a fully synergized LS with +30 skills (Since you have +30 to fade... hard to get yes but attainable).
She gets a level: (1/2 * 50) + (1/2 * 50) 50 LS WITH LEVEL 50 SYNERGIES. Why? Because when you have +skills to synergies, she counts them as hard points. Like if you had a level 50 shockweb and a level 50 warrior/master it would count as a level 50 (hard points) shockweb. Therefore her damage with LS would be... 19-29146... DAMN.

*I am not positive of the formula, as I couldn't find it so I was trying to remember, but I think that it is fairly correct.*

Another thing, it is coincidental in this formula that everything happens to be level 50. If you had a shadow at level 10 and your LS at level 35 then you would have a shadow with a level (1/2 * 10) + (1/2 * 35) = Level 22.5 LS
 
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ilkori

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The formula is (shadow/3) + (yours/2), and each part is rounded down. If the final answer is 0, then it will give a minimum of 1.

Both shadows use the same formula. Don't forget that they must use a skill before it counts as one of their synergies.
 
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MonsterSlayer

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So theroetically a shadow warrior can do more damage with LS than the assassin?

Does the shadow warrior take the exact same shape as the assassin so you can't tell the difference? In that way you could mind blast using high fcr with your assa after having prebuffed your SW, so it would lay traps and ppl would think that the warrior is you?

If the SW can be elemental immune (like the Igolem) then you could really screw up sorcs I guess.
 
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ilkori

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Basically. The only major flaw is the less than brilliant AI that shadows seem to have. I hear a lot of good things about Warrior AI, but I can't bring myself to use them. Depending on what claws, you use, you could look exactly like the Shadow.

There is more detailed info in the FAQ (Linked in the FAQ Update sticky).
 
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ilkori

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MonsterSlayer said:
thank you very much, though I don't think the answers to my questions lies in that link :(
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Yes it does. Follow the link in the link. I'd link you straight where you need to go, but there's no point in giving you a gutted fish when there's a perfect explanation of how to catch and gut it yourself.

There are several sections explaining the way shadows work.
 
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