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Immortal King Barbs help!

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Ezail3, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. Ezail3

    Ezail3 IncGamers Member

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    Immortal King Barbs help!

    Hi, i am starting an Immortal King barbarian (Whirlwind) and i have a few questions concerning him: :scratch:

    1) What ring//ammy set-up should i go for?? 2x raven//Sacren's chance? Angelic rings// ammy setup for attack rating?

    2) Roughly how many points should i distribute into dexterity and vitality? (216 dex, 167 vit is what someone told me (non base stats)) The same person told me not to spend a single point into energy because it was a waste. Whirlwind costs a lot of mana 25+ , so where do i get all my mana from and how much should i have??

    3) Is this a good skill point set-up for IK whirlwinder: Maul Mastery, Shout, BO, and of course whirlwind??

    4) Is it worth it to UM IK armor and 2x um the helm??

    Thank you for your time,
    Ezail3
     
  2. Holla

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    1. go with a 20 dex raven and a bk ring
    2.0energy-0dex-180stg-the rest in vit
    3.20ww 20mace 20shout 20bo 1natresis 1battlecommd rest in iron skin
    4.NO dont um any thing ik armor will give u max resists if u do the 3 resist quests

    *here is some crap about my barb*
    ~*ITEMS*~
    Ik set (40/15 max's in Armor and helm + 40/15 ias's in maul)
    Rings- Raven/Bk (5%ll)
    Ammy- Highlords
    Charms- 16x 290's/19-19-9 anni

    The following is what i have WITHOUT items
    ~*Skills*~
    20 mace mas
    20 ww
    20 shout
    20 bo
    10 Ironskin
    1 nat res

    ~*Stats*~
    Stg-168
    Vit-317
    Dex-Base

    ~*Misc*~
    Life-1435
    Mana-96
    Resists -68 (hell)


    Ok Now here is what i have WITH items on

    ~*Skills*~
    29 mace mas
    31 ww
    30 shout
    30 bo
    19 Ironskin
    10 nat res

    ~*Stats*~
    Stg-232
    Vit-336
    Dex-79

    ~*Misc*~
    Whirl Damage:Without charms - 5k/With 10 k
    Life- 3900
    Mana-333
    Resists MAX (hell)
     
  3. Ezail3

    Ezail3 IncGamers Member

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    ty.
    0-dex and 0-energy? where am i getting my AR and Mana from?
     
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    you should get by fine without dex everyone else does
    also the mana comes from the 10 mana leech on ik gloves
     
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    Ezail3 IncGamers Member

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    Yea, you are right about dex, most people seem to go fine when it's at base. Anyways, Im planning on using raven + Angelic ring / ammy combo for more, mad AR bonuses. But i still dont get how base barb mana (like 50) with some leech is enough for mad whirlwinding. Should i get 2x +50 mana GC's just incase? :scratch:
     
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    its your build put 1000 to mana if u want all i am saying is u will be more than fine with the 10% mana leech
     
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    Ezail3 IncGamers Member

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    Ok holla, ty, i appreciate your help
     
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    Superhal IncGamers Member

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    i put some stats in the other ik thread. relevant here is:

    1. ik+quests+minimal nat res gives you max res.
    2. ar seems fine if you have mastery (650 + enchant from set + skill bonuses gives me around 80% to hit.)

    that being said, the "best" rings ammy's would be no res, no ar. maybe some crafts with + skills, + stats (but no dex unless you need it to wield the wep.)

    I would recommend:
    sojs (i like em :) especially for base nrg builds.)
    bk rings
    highlords
    seraph's hymn
     
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    hehe, sojs :drool: are definitely outta my price range , same with bk's. I was thinking 2x ravens + Highlords. Also is base mana (not spending a point into energy) and 10% mana leech enough for constant whirlwinding?
     
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    it's very tight. i get 180 after BO, no extras. i am able to keep it up though.

    i just finished hell with an ik ww barb:
    sockets:
    +5 mana after kill
    15% damage goes to mana
    35 ias on maul

    rings:
    magical with LL/AR
    dwarf star (had a little trouble with fire enchanted in NM, but in hell, it was ok. probably didn't need it either.)

    amulet: crafted dual leech blood ammy, no skills.
     
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    Alright, cuz the base barb mana is 10 which is pretty ridiculous if ur gonna mad whirlwind. So you get 180 mana with BO, but with not a single point in to energy and no bonuses from items right?
     
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    NEVER put points into energy on a barb, since you only get a return of 1 mana per point. As previously mentioned, BO will boost you up quite a bit; my barbs usually have a good 200-500 mana after BO, with no outside investment. Similarly, you never pump dex on a barb unless for blocking or weapon requirements; at 4 or 5 ar per point, it's ridiculous, and much easier to just get angelic wing and two ammys for the massive, MASSIVE ar boost, or even just use enchant charges off Demon Limb for the +218% ar.


    -Hal
     

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