I'm so proud of my racist son!**

jmervyn

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** Ok, If I'm going to carry the effing OTF post origination burden, it'll be my cross to bear but don't you slackers DARE question my subject material.

Preface:

So I'm very proud of my son. I mentioned he already earned the equivalency of Eagle Scout in that crackpot Xian group I help in (they plagiarized the old pre-1970 Boy Scout program).

He scored 1440 on his first SAT attempt, on 3 hours of sleep without studying properly.

He's been practically in a state of nervous breakdown considering all the AP courses he's taken, but he'll practically have 2 years' worth of university under his belt by the end of his high school.

Last night he was inducted into the National Honor Society.



What really made my heart leap with pride was hearing the unbridled stream of vile racist & political profanity that poured out of my prize & joy's mouth when he read something along the lines of the following news story:

New SAT 'adversity score' includes crime, poverty of test-taker neighborhoods

Now, for those of you damned furriners who don't know, there were previous low-key scandals involving open racism by American universities, particularly Ivy Leagues, such as the one which Obama was able to sleaze his way into Harvard with sub-par scores & capabilities just so they could boast about diversity, & or the way Elizabeth Warren lied about having American Indian heritage.

More recently it's been the secret loading of admission scores, which my wife personally witnessed (working at what had been rated the Nation's top University a few years ago), wherein "Asian" students have their scores significantly handicapped, "White" students curtailed, "Hispanic" students boosted, & "Black" students openly promoted with a finger on the scale. In recent months this has been overshadowed by the admissions scandal involving rich parents paying for false credentialing, but it's actually been a longer-term & more pervasive issue.

This latest story involves the "College Board", a supposed non-profit whose CEO earns $690K a year. It's the passel of lick-spittle Progressive hyenas who coordinate with noble people like the husband & wife terrorists Bill Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn to shape & mold American higher education. So the College Board, apparently being stymied by the humiliation which many Universities have been encountering when providing sub-par services at crippling expense while playing at open racism, decided to do their Progressive Fascist brethren a solid...

Without telling students, SAT scores will now be SECRETLY weighted based on theoretical difficulty of circumstances - i.e. race & grievance - without actually determining facts.

It warmed my heart to hear my apolitical, middle-of-the-road son sounding like a Klansman on a binge. Now if only I can get him to use "Fascist Progressives" more frequently I can die in peace.

PostScript
Of course my son's not really racist, though he was shocked & appalled to be treated in a racist fashion by Indian kids he thought were friends. However, his rage at finding out that his work on the SAT's is being graded on a heavy curve for purposes of "social promotion" was nothing short of spectacular.
 

krischan

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Hmm, SAT... I could look it up, but I will rather guess. Ir means something like "student admission test", correct? And 1440 is close to perfect?

I had a glance at the first link and I was astonished that he's slightly below the middle 50% of admitted students. Perhaps I should have known better, as I heard a few months ago that there's much corruption in US universities. I'm not sure about the authenticity of that information, but if it's true, it might mean that the SAT score demands are so high in order to have enough of a margin for college places to those with the best bribes most special merits.

Regarding the secret weighing factor involving the racial, economic and societal background, that's a pretty silly idea. Apart from promoting corruption further by keeping it secret, that's a pretty hypocritic, if not mendacious approach and a cheap way to avoid doing things where and when they should be done. It would be better, but also more tedious to offer more opportunities to disadvantaged people when they are children, rather than cogging the dice at a later time in order to save efforts and produce the illusion of promoting a fairer society. Embarrassing!

Somehow related... uhm well OK, just a tiny bit: I just heard about a German who was disallowed to get his property registered in the land office. He's born here, he's a German citizen, he studied medicine, he's a doctor, he has a family and children, but his name is Mohammed el Fayed (or so). That name triggers a 100% score on some terrorist check database because there are terrorists who have the words Mohammed, el and Fayed in their name (which often contains a dozen words).... and Mohammed is the most common first name in the middle East, if not in the world, and el Fayed is about as common there as Schmidt here.

Apart from the silliness of such a scoring system, it's certainly against the law to prevent land ownership to anybody because of his name. I'm pretty curious about an upcoming court decision regarding that scandal and about the embarrassing excuse the office will bring up in order to explain it. This is certainly unconstitutional, there's no legal means to deny immobile property to him.

At least he hasn't lost his humor... he said I cannot be a terrorist because he has no time for that.
 

jmervyn

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Hmm, SAT... I could look it up, but I will rather guess. Ir means something like "student admission test", correct? And 1440 is close to perfect?
Well, not truly perfect, but high ~97th percentile or something similar. It's later in the cited blurb.
I'm not sure about the authenticity of that information, but if it's true, it might mean that the SAT score demands are so high in order to have enough of a margin for college places to those with the best bribes most special merits.
Quite true, & also commonplace - however, there's already official corrupt cutouts for donating vast sums of money or having a parent who was a graduate (AKA "Legacy").
It would be better, but also more tedious to offer more opportunities to disadvantaged people when they are children, rather than cogging the dice at a later time in order to save efforts and produce the illusion of promoting a fairer society. Embarrassing!
My son put it quite well during his ranting: "If they want to be more {fecking} fair, they should lower their testing fees!" Their costs are an exercise in extortion, but they're not about to do something legitimately supportive of improving treatment... only screwing over some students for Social Justice preening points.

Loz is correct about the Asians getting the worst shafting, though my son mentioned that Middle Easterners are often included in "Asian" category. If that can't be 'fixed' soon, the rules of the Victim Olympics will come into play & they'll have to include non-Judeo-Christian religion as well.

At least he hasn't lost his humor... he said I cannot be a terrorist because he has no time for that.
What amazes me is that despite German prejudice against the so-called "Turks" 30 years ago, it seems like Merkel was more interested in allowing the illiterate goat-herd types free passage rather than those who would produce for the EU. Trump's catching hell for making a similar argument, yet nobody's openly pointing out the absolute lack of logic in throwing benefits at those least likely to contribute to society while actually trying to prevent benefit to those who could use the "leg up".

(So yes, it's related albeit tangentially)
 

Leopold Stotch

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I think we should just get rid of standardized testing period. It's stressful to the kids, but, more importantly, this new adversity score is going to set kids up to fail if they are not college ready. That's what it boils down to: Are you ready for college? Are you able to do the work and think critically? A curve based on your upbringing is not going to help that-- your professor will fail you if you can't write a paper.

I did not take my SATs. The community college I went to did not require them and they had a placement test to take that determined how college ready you were. I had to take a remedial math class. My family and I saved at least $500 (those tests are expensive! Idr exactly how much but it's a lot) so yay.
 

jmervyn

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I think we should just get rid of standardized testing period. It's stressful to the kids,
Not to dwell upon my age, but I remember my draft-dodging communist Social Studies teacher, Mr. Trudell, spending a good month on discrimination & inaccuracy inherent in IQ testing.

The thing he never answered was, "what are you going to replace it with?"
this new adversity score is going to set kids up to fail if they are not college ready. That's what it boils down to: Are you ready for college? Are you able to do the work and think critically? A curve based on your upbringing is not going to help that-- your professor will fail you if you can't write a paper
Unerringly accurate. Which makes one wonder, who's really going to profit out of this? The student who's going to ground out or bomb in their Sophomore year? Unlikely.

The universities are going to be overjoyed, though, to help themselves to massive amounts of taxpayer-funded student debt. Which is why the Proggy rallying cry of, "College for ALL!!" is really so dishonest & vicious in nature. Poor Mike Rowe has been beating the drum about trade schools for years, & all he gets is a thumb in his eye from Progressives & a pat on the head from FOX news.
My family and I saved at least $500 (those tests are expensive! Idr exactly how much but it's a lot) so yay.
A penny saved is a penny earned. Like my son said, if the College Board really gave a rat's arse, they'd lower the costs for underprivileged kids. Funny how you're not seeing them do that, innit?
white kids grow up in crime ridden neighbourhoods and go to shitty schools too.
Yet I'll bet my bottom dollar that somehow their "white privilege" will shine through one way or another...

This is nothing but crypto-racism due to the previous open racism drawing too many lawsuits from Asian families.
 

krischan

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I'm fine with calling that racism if you are fighting racism as a whole and not just the kind that affects your ethnic group. Just fighting racism against your kind will breed new racism.
 

jmervyn

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I'm fine with calling that racism if you are fighting racism as a whole and not just the kind that affects your ethnic group. Just fighting racism against your kind will breed new racism.
Somehow I don't think "irony" is a German concept. Your second sentence was kind of what I was highlighting had occurred.
 

krischan

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I noticed the humorous style of your posting, of course, but your irony is sometimes difficult to distinguish from your serious statements, at least for me. I don't want to start a useless argument, but first you complained about your son not getting what he deserved due to his achievements and you called it racism. Then I read this:

This is nothing but crypto-racism due to the previous open racism drawing too many lawsuits from Asian families.
Perhaps it's the language barrier (and when reading this again, I'm asking myself what crypto-racism is), but this sounds to me like a "squeaking wheel gets the grease" complaint about Asians, without any irony.

OK, that's enough of a joke analysis. Even though I might have a certain talent, I'm not a pro at it.
 

Leopold Stotch

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I took a "social justice" education class last year (it was not actually called that, I forget what the title of the class was, but we talked about the social issues and injustices teachers should be aware of and how to "fight" it). We looked at an older statistic from the College Board. White kids statisticcally do better than Latinx and Black students on SATs even if the the Latinx and Black students are wealthier/have access to resources. However, one group that is often forgot about are poor white students. I guess a lot of people assume that all white people have money and power but if you poor... You don't have anything.

I tend to lean liberal, maybe even progressive (I think that political test Merv posted a while back showed me that I'm a dirty Commie and Socialist combination), but not every person is cut out for a four year degree. And that's okay!!!!!!! The world needs plumbers, electricians, mechanics, beauticians, managers, etc. I feel like there is this message that "If you want to do well in life, go to college for four years, get your degree, get a career! That's the ONLY way you'll be happy!" It's like... No, there are other ways to be happy and if you just want to work on cars, for example, that's fine too! Trade school is a great option too. I won't stick my thumb in Mike Rowe's eyeballs for talking about trade schools because they are a viable option as well.

My best friend was just down and she works at a uni as an academic counselor. She hates it because she feels like she is setting up lower classmen/first time college kids up to fail. She told me some of the shit that goes on behind the scenes (her school pushes kids to take 5 classes. 5!!!!! That's one science, one math, one history, one English, and one heavy-study class (maybe another science or math). That's so insane to me unless the 5th class is something light like kinesiology). She feels stuck in this position that she has to suggest these things to these kids while feeling, "I'm setting you up to fail and I can literally do nothing about it." Because of this, she feels that college is just another money mill, where the higher ups don't care about your education, they just want your money and the attendance rates. No one ever talks about the drop out rates.
 

jmervyn

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but first you complained about your son not getting what he deserved due to his achievements and you called it racism.
I purposefully didn't explain it - while he definitely made comments about racial preferences, the entire point of this abomination is for universities to practice racism while having plausible deniability about doing so.

In English, any time the preface "crypto-" is used, it implies 'secret' or 'hidden'. While "cryptoanalysis" is the analysis of cryptography (hidden information) a "crypto-fascist" would be a secret fascist and a "crypto-racist" would be a secret racist. A similar term is "neo-" as in "neoconservative" but that's got more implication of fakery and is generally more intended as an insult. Example is that "neocons" supposedly got the US into the Iraq war, but "neoconservatives" are actually supposed to be Democrats who lean 'right'.
 

jmervyn

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I took a "social justice" education class last year (it was not actually called that, I forget what the title of the class was, but we talked about the social issues and injustices teachers should be aware of and how to "fight" it).
"Social Justice" is cancer (Bill Maher). It's just another way the ruling class keeps the proletariat at each others' throats.
I won't stick my thumb in Mike Rowe's eyeballs for talking about trade schools because they are a viable option as well.
Rowe really tries hard to be non-partisan; despite his conservative instincts he's still a creature of Hollywood. However, he sought support from the Obama administration & was nonplussed when he didn't get it; the answer to "why not?" is obvious...

NYC Department of Education: ‘Individualism’ Is ‘White Supremacy Culture’

(kris - the 'obvious' answer is that the Education Establishment are insanely Progressive & are kept alive via huge infusions of legal & illegal cash, not the least of which is through the teachers' unions. There's no way Obama was going to buck the teachers' unions; he purposefully destroyed school choice when opportunity allowed even though it horribly damaged childrens' lives. It's why one of the high priorities of actual conservatives is to eliminate the Department of Education & the deep corruption that it enables)
That's so insane to me unless the 5th class is something light like kinesiology). She feels stuck in this position that she has to suggest these things to these kids while feeling, "I'm setting you up to fail and I can literally do nothing about it."
I took 5. I don't know that it's so forbidding, but I definitely agree that it's not realistic for many. That's why community colleges exist, yet they're all but slandered when it comes to accreditation.
Because of this, she feels that college is just another money mill, where the higher ups don't care about your education, they just want your money and the attendance rates. No one ever talks about the drop out rates.
Well, that's patently true. The only reason Proggies aren't pushing harder to destroy tax breaks for religious is that schools get those breaks because they used to be where clergy were trained. So these vermin roll around on their huge piles of endowment cash while the communities supporting them suffer (Princeton, NJ is so famously cash-starved that they had to take the thieving Proggy scum to court).

I remember 30 years ago that the president of my alma mater (one of the numerous Uni's claiming to be the "Harvard of the West") spending $15,000 on a desk & $8,000 on a rug because his office needed to imply how important he was. What a worthless little maggot...
 
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krischan

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"Social Justice" is cancer (Bill Maher). It's just another way the ruling class keeps the proletariat at each others' throats.
Whoa, so social justice isn't socialistic enough for you? Or did I miss your humor again and you just want to make fun of Bill Maher?

I guess you could probably say something like that about any kind of justice. BTW, who will benefit from abandoning social justice? No matter what you do, somebody will try to make in a way that the powerful benefit more than the powerless.

I expect the state and the government to be a constant counterweight to the influence of privileged people on society, although I'm fine with people enjoying certain privileges... in particular those privileges I'm claiming for myself, of course.

There's a point in saying that certain measures are just deceptions, alibi actions or even fraud, but I think a certain amount of an element of "the masses want to be betrayed" is unavoidable because of human nature the character flaws that are useful in order to achieve and maintain positions of power.

(kris - the 'obvious' answer is that the Education Establishment are insanely Progressive & are kept alive via huge infusions of legal & illegal cash, not the least of which is through the teachers' unions. There's no way Obama was going to buck the teachers' unions; he purposefully destroyed school choice when opportunity allowed even though it horribly damaged childrens' lives. It's why one of the high priorities of actual conservatives is to eliminate the Department of Education & the deep corruption that it enables)
I can live with your opinion about the education system if you would not accuse others to have done it on purpose, i.e. with the goal of promoting corruption. It appears populistic, dishonest and vile to me, like following an agenda without having to bring up useful arguments about it. Perhaps that's kind of the style of debating in the US, but I still despise that. It's terrible and disgusting.

I think that accusations have to come with facts that are proving it and not just witty rhetorics or a intentional lack of all of that. You should provide these evidence unsolicitedly. Perhaps you hope that nobody will ask, but it's likely that you want them to ask for it for some reason, so I'm not doing you that favor.

I remember 30 years ago that the president of my alma mater (one of the numerous Uni's claiming to be the "Harvard of the West") spending $15,000 on a desk & $8,000 on a rug because his office needed to imply how important he was. What a worthless little maggot...
I probably don't know enough about US universities. I know that you have to pay qwuite significant college fees, but to which extent was this college funded by tax money or especially supported by laws and regulations? If all the money comes from college fees, then this college is a private business and there's nothing to complain about. It's the same with buying a car and complaining about the boss of the company getting expensive privileges.
 

jmervyn

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Whoa, so social justice isn't socialistic enough for you? Or did I miss your humor again and you just want to make fun of Bill Maher?
Rather, that even pond scum like Bill Maher recognizes the malevolence behind the SocJus types.

I guess you could probably say something like that about any kind of justice. BTW, who will benefit from abandoning social justice? No matter what you do, somebody will try to make in a way that the powerful benefit more than the powerless.
The SocJus implementation in the U.S. relies heavily on "intersectionality" - meaning grievance Olympics. The most disadvantaged prize is dictated by the fascists in the Left side of the Progressive movement (the 'Right' side having been discredited as the supposed 'Neocons' of Iraq invasion fame).
There's a point in saying that certain measures are just deceptions, alibi actions or even fraud, but I think a certain amount of an element of "the masses want to be betrayed" is unavoidable because of human nature the character flaws that are useful in order to achieve and maintain positions of power.
An interesting claim. Could I paraphrase? 'Since humans are flawed creatures they will always tend towards sloth, avarice, & thievery against their fellow man, preferably while proclaiming the most noble of intentions'

I can live with your opinion about the education system if you would not accuse others to have done it on purpose, i.e. with the goal of promoting corruption. It appears populistic, dishonest and vile to me, like following an agenda without having to bring up useful arguments about it. Perhaps that's kind of the style of debating in the US, but I still despise that. It's terrible and disgusting.
Sorry, kris, but there's a strong element of it which you may not want to admit yet is patently visible. One need look no further at the overblown influence wielded by Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn & others. They're quite interested in the education system first as a tool of the COMINTERN & second as a tool of self-promotion. The teachers' unions are chock-a-block full of such filthy vermin, though I would never (as a child & relative of educators) make the claim that ALL teachers are filthy commies trying to overthrow the U.S.
You should provide these evidence unsolicitedly. Perhaps you hope that nobody will ask, but it's likely that you want them to ask for it for some reason, so I'm not doing you that favor.
kris, you emphatically refuse to read, much less believe, anything I have to say. Why should I dance about to prove you've got your head stuck in the sand when you'll refuse to do so in any event?
I probably don't know enough about US universities. I know that you have to pay qwuite significant college fees, but to which extent was this college funded by tax money or especially supported by laws and regulations? If all the money comes from college fees, then this college is a private business and there's nothing to complain about.
  • All "State" colleges/universities have extensive public funding. They don't lose this even when they're breaking the law.
  • All universities are supposedly non-profit & therefore tax free. It's nice work if you can get it.
  • Truly private colleges are mostly 'Christian' or 'Conservative', which are generally pitiful affairs, having to jump through hurtles to maintain that status because of the deep antiChristian & antiSemitism of the Progressive Left, who as I mentioned are in charge of the Educational establishment. Brigham Young University is probably the most famous of these.
  • Colleges which used to be nominally Christian (i.e. Catholic) have by & large become antiChrist or at a minimum not pro-Christ, again because of the Left's dominance of the industry. The largest Christian organization, Campus Crusade for Christ, has been kicked off campus for at least 30 years as far as I am aware.
  • Ivy League colleges are nominally private but reap immense benefits from public funding which is similarly unavailable to other universities. Again, they take these funds despite breaking the laws with which they are supposed to comply. A fine example is the garbage person Justice Kagan (now on the Supreme Court) who banned ROTC programs from Harvard & claimed it was because the military didn't coddle LGBLTQU$&XYZ sufficiently. She should have been charged with illegal use of Gov't funds because Harvard continued to pocket the money involved in hosting said programs.
 

krischan

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kris, you emphatically refuse to read, much less believe, anything I have to say. Why should I dance about to prove you've got your head stuck in the sand when you'll refuse to do so in any event?
There is a difference between saying that somebody is doing badly and saying that he's doing it with the intention of producing that result. It's OK to say that (in this case) Obama's measures led to curruption, but you said that he did it purposely, i.e. with the intent of spreading corruption. Is there anything like e.g. secret recordings of him saying that he wants his cronies in the education sector to get theit hand on more money or something like that? I don't think that a certain amount political rivals (including a few from his own party... these are the most dangerous ones BTW) or opposing who just make that assumption count as evidence. Your accusation is of a particular serious kind, so I think you would need rock-solid evidence for them.
 

jmervyn

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Is there anything like e.g. secret recordings of him saying that he wants his cronies in the education sector to get theit hand on more money or something like that?
There is, it's not a secret, & you've refused to read or recognize it previously. Again, you may <want> me to perform like a trained monkey while you sneer at historical facts, but that hardly means I'll do it repeatedly after you've dismissed it as too partisan for your tastes.
Your accusation is of a particular serious kind, so I think you would need rock-solid evidence for them.
What's serious about it? The Progressive Left have <always> concentrated their efforts to mould the psyche of America through the education establishment (and entertainment, and media). Obama said such things frequently himself ("We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.") & the "Journo-List" conspiracy ensured that mainstream media de-emphasized what conclusions ought to be drawn.

I tire of dealing with your intentional ignorance. I wouldn't profess to know what the German education system is like, so it's pretty damn arrogant of you to tell me I'm wrong about the American one when I'm not only a product of it, but have worked around it for 17 years.
 

krischan

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You accused somebody of doing it on purpose, you are going to prove it. I'm not searching for it. If that makes you feel like a trained monkey, then there's something wrong with the way you are trying no make a reasonable point.
 
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